They don't have power showers as they say thais have cold showers
Is it set up to fit power shower or is it a big job
Appreciate any advice
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When purchasing a new house in Thailand, potential homeowners often find there is no hot water system installed, leading to questions about the installation of electric showers or power showers. Many users in the community share their experiences, noting that while not all houses have pre-installed hot water systems, it is common and relatively easy to install heaters. It's advisable to buy heaters from local stores like HomePro, which often provide installation services. Users also mention the significance of ensuring proper water pressure and electrical setup for these systems, including having a dedicated circuit and grounding for safety.
You asked about 'power showers' do you mean heated water or a 'power shower' which is a high pressure water shower. First for heated water it's normal to have an electric heater in the shower area and I would recommend that you get one with a earth leakage breaker as most houses in Thailand don't have one in the consumer unit. Next for water pressure (power shower) a lot of houses run directly off the mains (goevrnment) water and the pressure is not only low but varies and the water can even be turned off at various times of day during the dry season so you need to install a water tank with an electric pump. The pumps are rated for the height (number of floors) and the number of taps being used at the same time and there are 2 types, continuous pressure & continuous flow. I prefer the continuous pressure as the pump maintains a constant pressure but turns on & off more often, with the other you notice the pressure drop before the pump cuts back in.
If you have enough water pressure, easy to set up. Bought mine at Global house I believe. Installation was done by them. Total cost around 7k per heater (including installation).
I had this problem, we bought new condo off plan , on completion we viewed the property and I noticed in the kitchen just one small tap, no hot water, prompting me to look at both showers , as you say she was surprised when I challenged that no hot water, she said that large water tank on the roof supplies quite hot water…. So it’s very common, I ask about getting hot water in both showers as the tap in the kitchen was no big deal. I went off with maintenance guy and we purchased 2 mini heaters that operate like the old Ascot heaters , not expensive….
Our house had all the wiring for the electric shower heaters… we’ve got 1 freebie with house and bought 2 others from homepro. They fitted them for free
My new home was wired for hot water but was extra. We bought one and they can and installed it the next day. Go with 4500 watts if you can. I like hot showers.😁
A 4.2kW heater can heat water by 10 degC at C a flow rate of 6 litres/minute. When the water coming out of the pipe is cold, or your heater is less than this rate, you can only get a mildly hot trickle.
We have 2 standard electric heated showers (Stiebel Eltron) with water from a pumped deep well. They have been in for 10 years, one has never gone wrong, the other doesn't heat but no-one complains. It is not as powerful as my UK showers but it is fine. The main point is safety, they have inbuilt RCDs but we also have proper earthing.
Buy one from big c or lotus for around 2500 baht, not expensive , buy 2 one for shower and one for your kitchen sink so you have hot water there aswell , easy to fit, if you fit it yourself make sure you earth it PROPERLY
Gary Ranger Those heaters are instant heaters. You need their staff to install them. Some drilling and work you can hardly do yourself, unless you have trade experience.
Recently replaced all of mine in three bathrooms. it’s a job for a professional only, and as previously mentioned big stores like HomePro will help you out here with a survey. We all love a powerful hot shower. But in Thailand you may need to compromise, and you need to be circumspect. If you live in a new(ish) build take a good look at your main house water pump first. Because developers often fit something relatively underpowered.
Mine was 150KW for a 4 bed, 3 bath property which was ridiculous. I replaced that with a Mitsubishi 400W Inverter pump. Pressure issues solved. Use an online tool to correctly identify the correct pump for your house. If need be upgrade it. Most Thai domestic wiring is a 2.5mm conductor for your socket main. That will only support up to a 4.5KW shower heater at a push.
Which does the job I find.
Or a storage water heater.
Up to you. Stiebel Eltron, Panasonic, Hitachi + Toshiba units are quality, safe and affordable units.
Getting the proper wire pulled from the consumer unit is the trick. It should be a new circuit. Thais like to add a cutoff switch that they call a "Safety Breaker" but idk if it is required anymore. The various safety switches can be built into the unit. You can also add an RCBO at your consumer unit. Oh, it needs an Earth Ground.
I’m 100% Thai and all of my home have heated water/shower. Whoever told you that , it’s is a lie.
I personally installed mine; it’s simple enough a woman can get it done; I mean, a handy , self sufficient woman like myself! Not sure about other women though 😅🤣
I think whoever it was was either stupid, has never been to Thailand. Thailand is like any country when it comes to hot water. You go down the hardware or plumbing store and order it and have it fitted. They must think everyone here has just climbed down from a coconut tree.
Greg Alexander I installed the heater unit myself and have an electrical engineer checked and made sure everything is properly installed and functioning.
It appears from your photo that the electric supply is already there. I simply went to HomePro and bought a shower heater, and paid for their affordable installation package. The electrician arrived the next day at the scheduled time, and finished up 30 minutes later 🙏
girlypop😍 I bought a 6,000W Hitachi and was charged 750Baht for installation a couple of years ago. Here's a screenshot of their charge now. Well worth using a HomePro contractor for the installation, as if there's a problem with anything they usually will correct it. I had to have 2 callbacks on my kitchen faucet installation 3 years ago. A manager ended up coming and fixed the issue in 2 minutes.
you may have noticed that there are two different taps in a bathroom. The one in hip-height will supply full water pressure, you could connect a hose to it or fill a bucket placed underneath. However the one from where the shower head gets supplied (or the water heater between the tap and the shower head) will always depressurize the water flow. This is very important, because if it was full strenght pressure, the water heater would simply explode !
In Asia it’s more common to see a little box on the wall next to the shower head providing hot water. Luckily our house has a big tank in the laundry / second kitchen area for central water heating which is what you’re unlikely used to. You can opt for either just find a technician.
I've never been to any house/condo/hotel without hot water in Thailand. Said so, in my place I always take "cold" showers. I'm used and don't really feel the water cold. But the hot water is available.
It can be challenging to arrange this if you don’t speak Thai. We installed two shower heaters in rooms without existing wiring - the way we did it was by buying the heaters at HomePro and bookinga “survey” (basically an assessment and quote - you have to pay a small fee for that) from Chang’s at Homepro. Then they emailed us a quote, which we accepted and paid, then they came and did it. Have a couple of thousand baht on you on the day - they’re allowed to charge you on the spot (with your agreement) for some small extras, we paid for dedicated circuit breakers etc.
Buy a heater the normal one about 3,000 include setting or as I has it costs about 7,000, if you need more power of the water more you can buy pumps it’s cost 6-8 k
Kevin Powell if you unleash the pressure, an installed heater would explode. The tap that supplies water to a heater is ALWAYS depressurizing the main water supply. They are equipped with a depressurizing valve. You get full water pressure only from the small tap in the wall around hip-height
Rafael Koehler I don't think you are talking about what you think you are talking about. The norm is a flow through water heater, mounted on the wall in the shower. It heats the water as the water flows through. It never has any water pressure inside it, because when it is off (meaning you shut off the water) there is nothing there to build pressure. It is open at both ends. An open intake and an open outlet. The intake side is managed by opening the valve on the (typically) wall mounted outlet. That's where the pressure ends when closing the water to the heater. The heater itself never experiences any kind of pressure build up. The water just flows through it.
So, what happens if you have too high water pressure?
It cannot heat the water.
That's it.
If you lower the flow, it has time to heat the water.
Our house had the cables all ready plumbed in, I just bought the electric shower units from power buy and they sent someone to fit them. All done fairly cheap.
either a wall mounted electric heater . 6000 watts . about 7k for a good brand . dont like those things much
or a Storage water heater . we got a 30lt fitted outside for one bathroom for 2 and its fine , but you ll need hot and cold water pipes and a mixer . we put a 50lt one for another bathroom recently , stiebel brand . was about 10k . much better in my opinion than the electric water heater fitted in the shower
Feral Ryder no I not say that. only the original poster says someone told them that Thais don’t have water heaters most do and a lot don’t. The person who told the poster that is stupid. It’s fine not to have one, but to say Thais don’t ? Hot out we had 3 weeks with temperatures 9-11 degrees. And for the last 2 months the low temperatures has been always below 15.
Donald Campbell i have concluded based on the statement “they say don’t have heaters Thais have cold showers” it’s not true and to make such a statement is stupid. Maybe some don’t but after living in a poor rural community they do have heaters
Jo Clemente I have never seen a shower without a hot cold dial or switch .we use a big barrel of water and pour it over your head in my girlfriend's mam's village near suphanburi
Joni1828 They are very cheap and easy to install. I bought my MIL one and had it installed. I think home pro or Global house will have someone install it. My wife no matter where we are takes cold showers. She is used to it.
Joni1828 we have built a new house in Thailand and have two heated showers.We are in a rural area.heated shower units can be fitted anywhere as long as you have power.
Joni1828 That is indeed sometimes the preference. I prefer hot showers in Thailand (would manage with cold water from the barrel), but on Sunday I will have my first icy river bath this winter. :-)
Greg Dake Dakin Your are still wrong. A lot (not all) install heaters, and most (but not all) then prefer it over yasuragi-style cold washing (yes, in Isan villages). Your personal experience might be different.
Greg Dake Dakin my houses(it’s with the s here) are in the village and All of mine have heated water/showers. Being a villager doesn’t mean unable to afford a water heater. Matter of facts it’s very cheap to purchase and low cost of electricity/maintaining.
Luc De Clerck mine was built by my wife 12 years ago before I met her. it was built by local contractor in very rural Thailand- keep talking nonsense Trump
Luc De Clerck what a stupid question!? Unlike your wife/partner I DO NOT have a stupid westerner partner!!😅😅😅😅🤣 I granted citizenship based on employment!! Stupid question deserves stupid answer! Now go get yourself some education.
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