@Patrick ********
I think it's fairly clear. If your embassy doesn't provide proof of income, you can't use income to start. You have to have 800k in the bank for a non-o.
The bank issue is also fairly clear. It's nigh impossible to open a bank account on a tourist visa. So get a non o before you arrive, open a bank account, put 800k in it.
If you want to switch to the income method, start depositing 65k from abroad every month. Just make sure you meet the requirements for both the 800k and the income methods that entire year.
Most of the confusion is because people generalize when they should be specific. A non-o is not the same as a non-oa. A dtv or other tourist visa is not the same as a long stay visa in terms of being able to get a bank account.