Why did you finally settle with a Thai visa? And which countries did you consider in the run-up to Thailand?
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The post discusses the reasons why expats choose to settle in Thailand as opposed to other countries they considered, such as Cambodia, Vietnam, Mexico, and various options in Central America and Southeast Asia. Many expats cite Thailand's high-quality healthcare, friendly locals, and good infrastructure as key factors in their decision. Others highlight the challenges of living in neighboring countries, such as the frequent natural disasters in the Philippines or the lifestyle in Laos being less appealing. Personal stories contrast experiences across different countries, revealing that while some expats are satisfied with their life in Thailand, others explore alternatives.
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I couldn't get a girlfriend anywhere and I can be a weekend millionaire.
You’ll have to qualify your question as it is horribly ambiguous. Any tourist coming into the country needs a visa or visa waiver, and if one wants to live here you’ll need a visa. If you have never been to Thailand your question is about as insipid as asking why do people like to walk in the sunshine?
My Thai wife, living with me in Japan, our Thai daughter living in Australia, both Thai citizens with Thai passports, Thai IDs, do not want to go to Thai. We have a Hawaii style condo in Bangkok, they dont give a shit.
Vietnam and Cambodia, which I love. I spent more than a decade in Thailand (had a wife, speak Thai and even ran a business), and I now want to experience other countries.
For me it was in-between Thailand and the Philippians. The only thing that made the Phils a strong contender was that most of the population speaks some level of English. However, the constant bombardment of typhoons (21 typhoons made direct landfall in the Phils in 2025) volcanos, earthquakes, electrical brown & blackouts, as well as the constant begging (especially by groups of children) were things I found unappealing. The language barrier in Thailand is still a challenge but the infrastructure is significantly better, the healthcare is on par with many Western countries, my electricity rarely goes out and although we did feel the effects of a large earthquake centered in Myanmar last year, earthquakes aren't nearly as common as the are in the Phils (the Phils sits directly on top of the Pacific ring of fire.) On the other hand, if I lived in the Phils I'd be eligible for the SRRV visa and my understanding is that this visa is much easier and less expensive than the retirement visa requirements in TL. There are pros and cons in every decision.
Surprising answers.. I never considered any other country. And wasn't in a relationship either. Even today I don't think of any other place I'd rather be.
Mexico, Costa Rica, Ecuador. Beautiful countries, all three. Decided I don't like the "machismo" Latin culture, or the food very much (because I'm vegetarian). Thai culture is second to none. Just visited Bali for the first time last month. Major points for how common it is to find English speaking natives there (probably 90% with rudimentary skills). Friendly people. But the transportation infrastructure is as bad as The Philippines (horrible), and I think Thai food is much, much better.
I’m 63 years old and kinda over the clubs , rooftop bars etc … maybe that’s my problem . But I am a 63 years old that look and act 43 lol
I don’t want to be around a bunch of retired folks in hua hin or Pattya -
But you are right - Bangkok is still the best choice in Thailand . I probably need to travel more to the other provinces . Thanks for your feedback and perspective .
Took a holiday trip around Singapore Malaysia and Thailand 25 years ago. Thailand was so cool I spent all of my very short holidays in Bangkok for the next several years loving the city and country more each time, determined to eventually retire here. Mission accomplished and it has not let me down. Other countries in SE Asia (except the Philippines) are great to visit, but not to live. I discover more all the time; never bored and incredibly inexpensive. And the nightlife is epic!
Mauritius 🦤 60 days on arrival. I know it's not part of Asia but if you fancy a change like I did. Give it a bash. It's only an island the size of what feels like Bali but it's a country. 👍
Philippines and Indonesia (Bali) as alternatives. A friend gave me a pretty good deal on a condo in Pattaya so I chose here, but I was considering moving to Bali when I made that decision.
Gary Hutcherson Perhaps my time in Bangkok has been much shorter then yours, but the city brings me new adventures all the time. Never boring. I have 104 nightclubs/skybars on my list to visit. And the restaurants...well too numerous to mention. Compared to NYC, far better climate (heat is no bother), more friendly people, far safer with no dangerous areas, and lots of gorgeous girls that don't think they're prima donnas. Lastly Bangkok is probably a quarter to half the cost of the US; incredibly inexpensive.
Gary Hutcherson wow. Interesting perspective. How much of Thailand have you explored? If not a lot, I recommend getting a decent motorcycle and hitting the road.
Vietnam isn’t too bad, but is a couple levels below Thailand in my opinion.
Culture? From a historical, “Smithsonian” style perspective, I’d say a Thailand still edges Vietnam a bit.
As for activities/opportunities/lifestyle, Thailand is a clear winner - music festivals, sports, live entertainment, availability of high end products for specialized hobbies (metal/woodworking, machine shop tools), etc.
Over the last decade I’ve spent 4 years living in Vietnam. Have spent a couple months at a time in many places around Thailand. Will move to Thailand this year and am looking forward to the change very much.
Octo Adven Over 26 years, we have been to every place in Thailand. 35,000 km. Our own car, hotels, everywhere. Real tourists. A special dedicated trip was to tour the whole of Isan. With Thai wife, she knew where to go and what to see. Nothing like googlers here.
Certainly, we saw nice people and armpits where they live but nothing like a place we would like better than Japan or Australia.
Octo Adven ABSOLUTELY agree. I love the mountains and outdoors, I think Vietnam wins there BUT as you mentioned overall it’s a fewer levels lower than Thailand on the other things that wouldn’t make it hard to live here just a bit more navigating you’d need to do.
The visa situation to me is actually better in Vietnam just doing border runs compared to all the changes in Thailand all the time.
Martin Mairesse at the time I thought I would stay Thailand until I die but one reason I don't want to stay here is the unrelenting heat and humidity. I love the 4 different seasons in my country. Another reason is to bring my wife to the US so eventually she can get survivors Social Security when I die. She has to spend 5 years in the US to qualify. She can still visit in Thailand during that time.
I presently have all the Immigration paperwork done and the Embassy interview scheduled but unfortunately after all that there is a temporary freeze on Immigration visas for Thais. Also even though costs are high in the US and the political situation is chaos I still love my country, miss my family and miss the food too.😁😁😁😁
Is that because she cannot come to your country? I had a lot of bad luck since I am here, often thinking going back to Europe. But living there is also problematic and expensive
Malaysia is better in terms of infrastructure. Good English speaking country too. Maybe only lacking is they don't offer much sex life experience like most ueropeans seeking in Thailand. My 2 cents.
You make the option sound so singular. Although I have a Thai Non O extension of stay based on retirement, I only spend 5 months of the year in the Land of Smiles. 4 months is spent in Vietnam and I return to my farmhouse in southwest France for 3 months during the European summer to miss the worst of South East Asia's wettest months. We are not trees, we are free to move around. I am currently in Phu Quoc avoiding Songkran.
Ricardo Alexandre sadly, that's a cage people make for themselves. I have travelled the world almost all of my adult life on a shoestring budget. Some of the best experiences came from lack of funds. I bought a 300 plus year old wreck of a home in Aveyron France that I have been restoring for over two decades, the work carried out by my own hand, as have always had more time than money. I did this simply not to need a mortgage, a millstone around my neck. I have never owned a new car, so no exorbitant finance needed. I don't even own a TV, prefering to live my life, rather than watch other people's lives. My home is spartan, my entertainment centre is a bookcase. We all start with the same options, it's the choices that we make that control future freedom. I hope that you are able to attain whatever you dream of.
Doug Olson you miss my point, we are all free to make life's decisions. Unless you live in an autocratic state. I was born into a poor Welsh family, and have never been gifted an inheritance. I, like most people worked hard for the money earned. It's what we choose to saddle ourselves with after that first paycheck that allows or denies our future freedoms.