What should I do about the new 800,000 baht requirement for my Thai visa?

May 9, 2023
2 years ago
Will **********
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I just went to immigration today for my 90 day check-in. He told me that this year the rules changed so I must have 800,000 baht in the bank now and not 800,000 combined income and bank account. He will connect me with someone who will loan me the money for a day to cover the difference. Of course, I will pay interest. What can I do?
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An expat faced new immigration rules requiring 800,000 baht in a bank account instead of a combined income and bank account for a visa extension during a 90-day check-in. Alternatives suggested by the community included going to a different immigration office, using online procedures, or hiring a local agent. Many participants expressed skepticism towards the new requirement, considering it a potential scam or inconsistency in immigration practices. The situation was further complicated due to the participant's visa having expired, prompting discussions on possible solutions, including leaving Thailand and applying anew.
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Falcon *******
This is the reason Why so many foreigners have left Thailand, Immigration can't get their act together, changes every year.
Paul *******
Powell *********
Just get married to a Thai. Then you only need half that lol
David ********
800,000 baht, yes, usually.

Depending upon where you are from you may be able to get the retirement visa (O-A) in your home country, and the Thai embassy there may just ask you for your financial information from your local bank accounts and income streams, and if they give you the O-A that gives you time to possibly work your way into meeting the requirements for the 65,000 Baht monthly deposit option (but I forget if that is a 6 month or 1 year record of monthly deposits, so you may need to come to Thailand first for a couple of months, open a bank account, then go home and start the O-A process while making monthly 65K deposits to 'prime' the process.

The other option is arriving here on a tourist visa and try to convert to an 'O' visa (same as an O-A with same financial requirements, although no insurance requirements,so depending on your need for health insurance would make for a cheaper, if not very wise, option.) Also be aware that arriving on a tourist visa and converting in Thailand is not ' a given', they may turn you around and tell you to apply from your home country ... a good immigration agent, or lawyer (at a cost of probably 25K and up Baht, might make that option more viable, but still probably safer to go the O-A route frim your home country.

The above is all just my opinion, do your own research since there's chance I could be wrong.
Merv ***********
Sounds ludicrous
David ******************
$26,000 USA dollars need to be in a bank account in Thailand, for the retirement visa? I need to learn more about this …
David ********
Give them 2k bht
Andy *********
A 90 day visa check has nothing to do with having or needing 800'000bht in the bank. That is only req'd in some form for a 1yr renewal
Will **********
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@Andy ********
yes it does. read comments
Andy *********
@Will *********
I read the initial question as well as the comments where it's stated :-

I just went to immigration today for my 90 day check-in.

Will,

In 16yrs of living here I have never been asked about 800'000bht etc when requiring my 1 of my 90 day visa renewals.
Will **********
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@Andy ********
they only ask when it is annual renewal of visa.
Jim *******
Troll
Will ************
So as of now you have no visa ? If so you must leave Thailand ASAP, if you get caught before leaving you will get an immediate detention and 5 yr ban.
Frank **********
Key word is his visa expired. So I would guess he has to start from the beginning all over.
Terry **********
When did you do your annual extension, was it more than 90 days ago?
Will **********
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@Terry *********
no, i missed it by 7 days
Terry **********
@Will *********
what do you mean you missed it by 7 days?
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Terry *********
my visa expiration datw
Terry **********
Insist on speaking to superviser
Mitchell *******
This thread has hurt my head. 🤣 So, the visa has expired, so you need to start over with 800,000 in the account, whenever or however you can get that. Wouldn't you need to leave the country for a bit?
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Mitchell ******
It hurts my head Too! A comedy of errors with no laughter. I am from Chi-town and know when I am being shaken-down Doesn't make any happier.
David ***********
You are being condoned
Will **********
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Michael **************
@Will *********
no money needed in Thai bank. Just proof you have income
Michael **************
@Will *********
I just received my OA visa and I meet monthly income no 800K in bank.
Tom *********
@Michael *************
- How to do this & how much monthly income needed for the OA visa pls ?
Michael **************
@Tom ********
*****
k equals little more than 2k usa
Tom *********
@Michael *************
thank you and is there a time period before application you must be getting the regular income into Thai bank ??
David ***********
@Will *********
I live on a monthly income, no change
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Shane ************
What a scam. Go to diff office
John *********
Someone is taking the piss eh ppl.
Charles ***********
The 800k has nothing to do with the 90 day report. Either you've misunderstood - maybe the official means when you renew your visa you need 800k - or you're being scammed.

Which immigration office did you go to?

What visa are you on?
John **********
@Charles **********
his extension has already expired, he doesn't have the required insurance and he doesn't have the money
Darrald ********
Scam
Srini ******
There are some details missing. The 800k needs to be seasoned for two months. How can someone just lend it for a day?
Peter *********
@Srini *****
how do agents do it
John *********
@Srini *****
this is Thailand 555
Srini ******
@John ********
I've only dealt with the CNX and in HUA HIN and I've not had any issues as long as I had the proper documentation.
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Srini *****
be an immigration officer and see what you can do
Charles ***********
@Will *********
as Srini says, it needs to be seasoned for 2 months. Fact. So why the cryptic response?
Ruth *******
@Charles **********
if the immigration officer lets it pass, it passes. That’s the meaning of his response.
Paweł ***********
@Charles **********
immigration officer decides finally about it
John **********
You sound completely confused. I assume you mean you tried to do a 90 day report and then discovered your extension of stay had already expired which means you have been on overstay since it did. That normally carries a 500 baht per day fine.

What visa did you originally have and have been extending for the last 3 years, was it a Non-O visa or a Non-OA visa? This is important and will determine whether you need insurance or not?

You need to use the office where you live for your extension, do you have the money required for the extension or not? Only some offices allow the combination method I'd just ask them for their handout highlighting their requirements and see what it says.
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@John *********
Yes, I owe 3,500 as of today. O-A, I need insurance, but bribes have eliminated that need. I cannot make the difference 'tween my bank and the 800,000 baht.
John **********
@Will *********
sounds like you have no option but to pay your overstay fine, leave the country and start over. But you will need 800k baht in the bank to apply for an in country Non-O visa, on the bright side it has no insurance requirement.
Leo ******
Lucky for you and how convenient that he should have a friend to lend you the money at interest...
Onne ***********
lie
Martin *********
😳. Unheard of !
Dean *************
How do you not know when your visa expires? Seams like it would be an important date to know.
Will **********
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@Dean ******
because I do it once a year and I am not a date guy. I forget my birthday.
Ruth *******
@Will *********
leave the country and start over or employ an agent. I’m also someone who loses track of time, so I put reminders in my phone for EVERYTHING. I highly recommend it. For something like this, I’m neurotic and enter multiple. Best of luck.
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Ruth ******
i am 70 years old. try again.
John ********
Mason you cannot read is that what you are trying to tell us

It's not rocket science and the 90 day is even easier you have a bit of paper inside your passport
Lee ******
Run...to a different office
Bob **********
Leave the country immediately and return and start over
Anne *******
That's not true, my friend just did it at samui.
Lisa ********************
Can you not do this 90 day report online ?
Jeremy ********
Weird they are asking this for a 90 day report…in the future just do it online and avoid this altogether
Thomas *********
This agent will sort you out without any issues.

Maneerat Transport & Travel Visa and Tour service

081 863 0320

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Chan ******
@Thomas ********
Will they also help to open bank account please? Thank you.
Thomas *********
@Chan *****
They are very well connected with immigration. I would go to their office. Everyone I know uses them as either the UK, US, Canada, Europe zone or Australian passport.
Chan ******
@Thomas ********
Thank you. I have asked, they not do the bank account opening for Hong Kong passport holder.
Thomas *********
Thomas *********
@Chan *****
yes they will open an account for you
Chan ******
@Thomas ********
Thank you so much.
Chan ******
I have asked, they do not have quota for Hong Kong passport holder. Aiya, I have asked some agents, they all replied the same. Oh no, if do not have bank account, mother is unable to apply the retirement visa. What should I do now?
Ruth *******
@Thomas ********
yeah, this is the type of situation where getting an agent involved is worthwhile
Thomas *********
@Ruth ******
without a doubt a good agent is worth every cent. Takes the stress away.
Peter *********
Not normally ask you about funds in bank for a normal 90 day report ???
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Peter ********
no, but it coincides with my visa expiration.
Peter *********
@Will *********
so you not have the
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0baht in bank 2 month prior to renewing ???
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Peter ********
no, never needed it. always add my annual and bank and must be 800,000
Leonard *********
@Will *********
when you say “annual” do you mean the yearly pension amount?
Peter *********
@Will *********
ok not sure and good luck
Cabbie ******
Which province?
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Marshall *********
Call the anti corruption hotline.
Lye **********
Definitely a scam. Lol
Brandon ************
Are you referring to the 90 days after you received your 1 year extension from Jomtien? This is the office where they make you return after 90 days to show your bank book.
Brandon ************
@John *******
no laws changed but each office can make their own rules.
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brandon ***********
How do I change thias situation?
Brandon ************
@Will *********
easiest would be to leave Thailand without a re-entry permit and enter on a fresh stamp. Then apply for a new non-O visa that has no insurance requirement. This would require 800,000 in a Thai bank account if that's the rule of the province your reside. Then you'll be able to get the 1 year extension with the same.
Will **********
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@Brandon ***********
Thanks, but that won't work. I am going to bite the bullet and regroup for next year.
John ********
@Brandon ***********
thanks, as we live in kalasin I presume a trip to khon kaen would not help?
Brandon ************
@John *******
you need a TM30 from the province you want to use showing you reside there. Some offices may also require a rental contract for a long term extension.
John ********
@Brandon ***********
hi Brandon I hope you don't mind me jumping on this, Will is a good friend of mine and you have given me very helpful advice in the past. Will is on an o-a visa which has unfortunately expired he has over 500,000 in the bank and monthly credits of 40,000 baht our immigration officer told Will you can't have the combined option as the law has changed??? I'm willing to take him to another immigration office khon kaen probably be the nearest, would this be the best option? many thanks John
John **********
@John *******
does he also have the required insurance?
Will **********
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@Chris ******
This is my 6th year here.
Will **********
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@Brandon ***********
no, i went for 90 and found out my visa expired a week ago. Now he has shook me for 16,000 baht/yr for 2 years because I don't have health insurance.
Gordon ************
@Will *********
That kinda looks like your own fault 🙏🙏🙏
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Gordon ***********
well Gordon, It was not mandatory for 3 prior years and the insurance is 2 months income each year.
Gordon ************
@Will *********
I’m not up for a tet a tet , I’m only saying
Will **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Koh ******************
Where are you now?
Yann *******
How much
Lyndon ************
Do it online
Steve ********
Another immigration scam. Use another IO
Frank-Steven ***********
Turn the annoying inconsistencies between offices and officers into your advantage. Try first: Go another day, hoping for another officer. If that does not work, go to another office in another district. This is the general fix for issues at the immigration office, imho.
Wayne *******
@Frank-Steven **********
how do you do this on a retirement visa? Can only go to one in your district?
Frank-Steven ***********
@Wayne ******
"Your" district is the district in which you last reported your address, I presume? So, going to another district, checking into a hotel, making sure that hotel does the TM.30 reporting should give one the necessary "proof" of current residency in that new district. I know, painful, but sometimes immigration office shopping for more reasonable procedures is the best option.
Wayne *******
@Frank-Steven **********
ahh yep ok... Can work but without going into to much detail it can backfire, but luckily Thailand can overcome most problems with a wink and slip of an envelope lol
Russell *******
Use a different office
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