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What is the required duration for money to stay in the account when using an agent for a Thai retirement visa?

Mar 27, 2026
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Alan *****
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If you’re applying for a retirement visa. You have to have 800,000 baht in the bank for two months, but if you use an agent you can bypass this. For a cost, but when the agent puts the money in your account how long does it have to stay in the account. Before he can take it back out
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When applying for a retirement visa in Thailand, you typically must have 800,000 baht in your account for at least two months. However, using an agent allows you to bypass this requirement, as they can temporarily deposit the money into your account. The duration for which this money needs to remain in the account varies based on experiences shared by users, with some indicating it can be as little as a few minutes, while others suggest it should stay overnight to meet bank and immigration regulations. Caution is advised, as not all agents are reliable and there could be risks involved in depending on shortcuts in the visa process.
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Thomas ******
There is a second option. If you can proof your income exceeds 65,000 baht per month.
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Paul ********
90% of visa services will not do the 800k in and out and only Krungthai with that agent. My last 4 friends couldn't get it and my sister almost couldn't. The banks are the ones screwing it up, not immigration thus you have to get by the bank.
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Mike ******
About an hour
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Ken ********
Personally I wouldn't even consider taking the risk of going down that road, but that's just my opinion
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Peter ********
Be careful! Some agents are not reliable. I know of an agent that has taken over 90 days to process an extension based on retirement. Officially that's a one year ban, but the agent assures the owner of the passport that they have sorted the over stay out, but hasn't done the extension yet'
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Tim ***********
An hour maybe
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John ********
Why would you ask this?
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Kev ********
If you leave it in the bank, don’t forget the big whopping .25 of a percent interest 🤦🏻
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Stewart *********
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hours
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Natalie ***********
Leave it in there and forget about it.
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Brian *******
What it's for: it's to pay for the hospital bed you occupied before you died.
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Michael *********
Why do all of these people try to cheat the system. Just put the damn 800k in the bank, leave it there and dont worry about it. That's only $23,000 US. If you can't afford that then dont come to Thailand.
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มาริโอ *******
Why you don’t keep this to yourself and just be happy you’re living here!
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Ray ******
In my experience about 30 mins for which you pay a very heavy price for
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Yurek ******
Same day. They deposit it in. You get your bank book updated, your statement printed and then you send it straight back. I do this every year.

Be warned. Only kasikorn and krungsri allow agents to do this now. Ive been with BKK bank doing it previously but my agent told me to open a new account with either of these 2 banks. I fear all will follow in time which sucks as I'd rather keep 800k in my stock market account
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Zito *********
I would rather have a DTV
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Lisa ****************
Zito Alisons DTV is just an extended tourist visa, which is fine if you don’t need a bank account, don’t need to register a vehicle, etc…
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Zito *********
Lisa Kovar Whipple thanks for info Lisa
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Rob *******
Some immigration offices do this facility directly...
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Stu **********
5 minutes
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Charmae *******
If U haven't got the money DON'T COME

FFS
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Ross *******
Charmae Craig They don't have enough money to stay where they are either 😂
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Greg ***********
the agent keeps the 800K in your account for 10 minutes
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Yu ****
Be very careful. Had a lovely accountant who we got on with really well. Gave her the tax each month to pay. At the end of 12 months was sent a bill for the tax as if I had paid nothing. Went to tax office with the receipts the accountant had provided. Woman took them, scrutinized them, and looked at me sadly. These are fake she said. nothing was paid. Went to the accountant and asked where the money was. She smiled at me. ‘Yea I didn’t pay.’ ‘Why not?’ ‘I needed it,’ she said. I got rather angry and she was completely perplexed. ‘But I needed it,’ she kept saying. Trust no one. Do your own affairs. Don’t cheat the system. Don’t ask anyone else to treat the system for you. If you get really angry they might kill you. Not joking. Lovely country. Lovely people. Don’t trust anyone.
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Mark *******
Yu Sa I had a school do that, took taxes all year, then the money vanished.
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Todd *********
Yu Sa live and learn. Thats a LOT of screw ups for one person. And you best learn to trust. Ot go back to your own lousy country
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Neil *****
Todd McGowan and they say Canada is famous for its lovely people. I see why you left
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Yu ****
Todd McGowan strange thing to write. I think once is enough. Lesson learned. Now all paperwork is done personally. Why are you angry? It was one person trusted, one person failed but then we heard everyone else’s story and we got wise. As I wrote lovely country, lovely people, just take care of your own affairs. Can’t trust people who are out to cheat.
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Todd *********
Yu Sa why would I be angry? Its funny. It’s you who is angry enough to ‘trust nobody’. Why are you so angry and bitter. Happens anywhere. And living without trust is living one empty life .
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Yu ****
Todd McGowan you are a strange one. Nothing bitter. Just wise. It doesn’t actually happen anywhere.
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Scott *******
Well said 👏🏻 every country has them. Even the lousy countries.
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Paul ********
does it matter?
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Susan *******
There are places to do it under the table
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Yo***
many stupid farangs have big illusion about putting 800K thb in Thai bank. 800k Thb is just security deposit for Thailand. like deposit for rent a house. this money is not for your living in Thailand. even you have 800K thb, I do not think it is enough for living cost in Thailand for one year, you can not use it at all for several months after before extension. While you already have money in Thai bank, you still need to transfer your money into Thailand for your daily living costs. so your money into Thailand increased monthly after and before extension, and even after some months, you can use parts of that, not below 400K Thb, immediately you must refill it again two or three months before extension. Well, practically, 800k thb is security deposit for Thailand. if anything goes wrong with you, thailand can take your money.
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Ross *******
Young Money that's not growing is shrinking. Immigration should at least let people use a KTB Gold Wallet or similar product that allows people to earn on their 800k. Now I'll go and explain simple logic and economics.to a Thai IO. Don't hold your breath.
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Ian ********
Young Nobody including the government can take money from a person's bank account. The government could freeze the account as happened with Russian oligarchs but the funds in the account cannot be taken.
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Ian DelMar Good! believe what you want. I do not bother you. Good luck to you and me ! 😂
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Brian *******
I just did my first 1 year extension having to provide previous 12 months statements Plus last additional copy of previous 3 months statements Plus bank book showing a transaction on the day of application. They want to confirm the required money has existed in your account for the full term of the previous 12 months. I think playing with Fire and ongoing Visa pursuing work around. I like to sleep in peace at night. 😁
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Ross *******
Brian Loose False. They do not want to see the required money in your account for the full term. They only want to see the 65k coming in monthly. I get 65k transfers every month and immediately transfer them to a secondary account. My FTT account for Immigration extensions never goes over 65k and they don't get to see anything I actually spend my money on. My annual statement is one page long.
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Ian ********
@Brandon ***********
Yes KYC driven by illegal activity on certain accounts across the banking spectrum but mainly on one particular bank. Certainly was not an immigration issue regarding agents.
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Melissa *******
Brian Loose yup. Once you use an agent. You are stuck paying and getting them to iron out the wrinkles on each renewal. They are cracking down on accounts and it is getting harder for agents and foreigners to get bank accts.

Recently many have been frozen until you speak to them and show them what they want to see.
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Ian ********
Melissa Batch Yes many have been frozen but not because they used an agent for immigration purposes. They were frozen as part of a crackdown on illegal money laundering and cyber scam activities.
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@Ian *******
It was mostly a KYC activity. That's why most of the foreigner accounts were frozen. It was mostly Thai accounts that were frozen for money laundering any mule accounts.
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Peter ********
Can’t believe this is being discussed here . Not smart
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Alan *****
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Peter Kortum the government know what’s going on.
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James ********
They don't put it in thats the catch.
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Alan *****
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I wonder how the agent can bypass the 2 month stewing period
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Lisa ****************
Alan Bow Corrupt immigration officers
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Todd *********
Alan Bow does it matter
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Brandon ************
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ราตรี ********
One day... Their Brother works in Immigration
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Colin *******
What is the cost to bypass this?
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@Colin ******
Varies greatly based on what visa you have already and other things, but anywhere from 20-60,000 baht
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Colin *******
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Colin *******
Any recommendations
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Ken *********
Use monthly pension just 65 thousand a month once it’s in the bank u can spend the whole works as it recorded deposited from foreign transfer bingo
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Scott *******
I was just going to say this. The first visa I got I had the 800k. I wanted to spend it rather than it depreciate. Asked immigration. They said start paying in 65k today for 12 months and spend the money straight away 😄
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LaGenia ********
Ken Withers Thank you for stepping in Keith. I have a pension more than 65k baht. So do I still need the 800k deposited.
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Alan *****
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LaGenia Carter no you don’t need the 800,000
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Mark *******
LaGenia Carter 1st year 800k, 2nd year+ 65k
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Audrey ******
LaGenia Carter you do for first extension as you won't have had a Thai bank account long enough to show minimum of 12 months of 65k baht coming in
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Ross *******
Audrey Gray You don't need to show 12 months of 65k transfers for the visa. Only the extension a full year later. Pension proof is needed for the visa only.
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Audrey ******
Ross Chabi that's what I said
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Ken *********
LaGenia Carter no
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Lorenzo *******
Abaut 1 minute
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Patrick ********
Bangkok bank 4 months and money locked
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@Patrick *******
Only if you're doing it yourself. Agents still have no problem in and out.
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Dick ********
Ya. Then good luck getting an extension without the funds in your account.
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Yurek ******
Dick Greene it's been no issues for me the last 3 years
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Brandon ************
@Dick *******
That's what agents do every day
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Dick ********
@Brandon ***********
how do they show a twelve month statement?
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Brandon ************
@Dick *******
they don't need to show it. That's the point
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Mark *********
They take it out immediately
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James ********
Mark Colcord only about a million others doing the same as you. Most reading this post right now.
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Nick *******
Mark Colcord And the Banks
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Toby ******
Mark Colcord why would you say that on a public forum? It is illegal.
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Todd *********
Toby Shaw what is illegal?
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Peter **********
Mark Colcord That’s your card marked now..
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Sandra ****************
Mark Colcord not true anymore. The 800k have to stay overnight in your account before it can be transferred back
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Sean **********
Mark Colcord Brilliant deduction Sherlock
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Lawrence *******
Mark Colcord
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Mario *********
Mark Colcord you think so? 😉
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Preben *******************
Mark Colcord Yes. Corruption and against the law.
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Strength *********
Mark Colcord if it helped you, maybe it's a good idea to shut the FK up.
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Joe **********
Mark Colcord yes, ya think? Gosh.....
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Frances ********
Ya think?😂
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Steve *******
About 30 seconds!
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Thorsten ***********
Steve Greir 5 minutes
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@Thorsten **********
If you're lucky 👍
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Trustworthy************
Steve Greir and yet it must season 3 months before and 2 after.
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Sue **********
TrustworthyFlamingo4178 the other way round for the first application
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Brandon ************
TrustworthyFlamingo4178 money is better than time
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Alan *****
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TrustworthyFlamingo4178 that’s what I don’t understand
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SunnyChe*********
Steve Greir yep 👍
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Jan ******************
Touch and go…
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Peter **********
Jan Kenneth Nesland Just like Phuket….short time.
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Clinty **********
If you dnt have 800k?? how can u retire???)
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Clinty **********
im not rich and have an elite💁
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Chris ******
Clinty Williams 🤡
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Magnus *********************
Clinty Williams That wasn’t his question 😆…

No matter the amounts of money he got or not but answer to the question what a agent do is to cooperate with the bank and put money in the account and 5 seconds later take it out, it’s called rent the money and it’s illegal…
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Ian ********
Clinty Williams Use an agent duh
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Yurek ******
Clinty Williams you've not heard of pensions?
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Todd *********
Clinty Williams everyone has the 800k. But most people know how to use it to their advantage and not pointlessly tie it up
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Clinty **********
the white privilege is running out ob Thailand quickly
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Peter *********
Pension and savings how else ? By giving someone else 800,000 of which you can use half and for all those saying it’s corrupt is it ? An agent says they do retirement visas we choose to go down that route using a service they offer pay the price they require , not sure I personally have done anything wrong ,
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Clinty **********
Peter Stevens if that is all you have in✌️🤣 savings. Good luck!!!
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Your comment is proper sir
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Andy **********
Clinty Williams I've been living in Thailand full time or part time since the 1990s and nothing has changed.

Real expats, what the word was coined for, can pay and do pay. They like to sleep easy at night and the cost is nothing.

The other 99% don't really have the money to retire and they are only funding Thailand from their state pension, social security and more frequently, the sale of the only asset they ever accumulated, the family house.

They have no real investments and no real income, so they dodge the rules. These are exactly the same people who have no medical insurance and who tell you that a bike is all you need despite them driving cars back home for 40 years, only to try and drag you down to their level because they cannot afford Bt1m+ for a new car.

Of course, the next generation have no savings, they have debt and they don't even own a property. They are relying on mum and dad to leave them something because they are not making enough for themselves. You see them all over YouTube, scratching their arse looking for the next cheapest bowl of noodles.

And finally, you cannot educate these people. They "know" and you're wrong.

Until they are deported.
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Chris *********
Andy Johnston the cost is not nothing, it's about 100 baht per day in lost interest which would be paid in a normal country with normal banks.
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Lorenzo *******
Clinty Williams , most people have 800,

But not in bank off Thailand
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ราตรี ********
Clinty Williams 30 .000 baht through an Agent does the trick..Me think you ain't been here long
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Preben *******************
Clinty Williams Exactly.

People who can't afford to keep 800.000 in a thai bank should never come and live in Thailand.
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Alan *****
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Clinty Williams that 800,000 is never your own
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Ken ************
Clinty Williams Having 800k baht in Bank doesn't mean you have money to live day to day it is an illusion
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Chris *********
Clinty Williams
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th of my bank balance goes up every week monthly. 800k sitting in a near zero interest account is 800 baht a week I'm not getting. That's not a cheap visa.
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Strength *********
Chris Simpson I think you can put the money in a term deposit account, immigration doesn't care, I asked them before.
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Chris *********
Strength AndWill they pay fuckall interest anyway. Less than inflation.
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PeacefulTa***********
Chris Simpson So you'd rather pay an agent a fee that exceeds what interest you would be earning the entire time?
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Mark *******
PeacefulTangerine7544 absolutely.
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Chris *********
PeacefulTangerine7544 I'd rather pre pay $1000 AUD for 2 years Indonesia prospective investor, have to do a reset after 12 months & Thailand is one of a bunch of countries within 4 hours flying time. There's no country in SE Asia I'd trust with tens of thousands of dollars in any of their banks.
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Todd *********
PeacefulTangerine7544 The agent fees are SUBSTANTIALLY less than the interest, basically you get the agent for free. And waste none of your valuable time at the bank or immigration playing the bureaucracy
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Chris *********
Todd McGowan it's amazing how many people have no grasp apparently that there's a big difference between .5% & 5% interest.
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BC ********
Chris Simpson when you deduct the agent cost from the extra intrest, it suddenly is not that much anymore. If you would switch to the 65k per month the next year, then you're already losing money with an agent.

And tell me : what difference will the extra money you MIGHT gain fro using an agent make in your life ?

If you can point it out, that means you don't have much money. And in that case the agent option might indeed be worth considering.

But for someone who has enough money, they can't do anything extra at all with that extra bit of extra intrest because of using an agent.

So answer this question : give an example of anything at all, that Ican do with that extra bit of money, that I can not afford to do now.

This question and its answer gives an important clue wether to consider using an agent.
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Chris *********
PeacefulTangerine7544 I don't play any of these games.
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Greg *************
Clinty Williams Invested in home country earning income which is double the price of an agent. Most people sell their properties through agents.
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Greg Dake Dakin My condo solidly in tact in BKK never used an agent. We have a phillipino girl who runs the airbnbs easy. My point was that if you asking that type of question. You might end up living hand to mouth but to each his own. Good luck!!
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Yo***
Clinty Williams you surely know that Thailand is never a good place to make money and keep your money safely. You must have known this. I have this from my stupid mistake in my life before, and I lost a lot.
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Todd *********
Young Thailand is a great place to make money. And protect money. And invest. And pay minimal or no tax.
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Greg *************
Clinty Williams Why should that concern you.
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Greg Dake Dakin because he is not happy that you earn more than he does in Thailand. I know how difficult it is to make money from airbnb. and, there are a lot of fees and expenses and stress to do this. very probably, his airbnb business is his last income. So he is angry with you to get more money so easy from your FD interests in your home country. And home is the most safest place to keep your money. 😂
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Steve *******
Clinty Williams The irony is you don't have to be retired to obtain a 'retirement visa'
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Steve Greir sure cause its pennys if you compare it to other countries.
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Steve *******
Clinty Williams Nothing to do with money. Age is the first requirement 👍
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Robert *********
Clinty Williams if you can’t afford something, perhaps don’t buy it.
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Robert McBrain true, but i have Thailand Elite no worries 💁
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Elías ********
Clinty Williams while this is a good question, I do know people with millions and millions on their home country banks which have zero interest to put money on a Thai bank and do prefer to pay an agent for doing the trick. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but don't assume that the people doing that do it because they have no money. It's quite the opposite if you're willing to pay a bunch of money to an agent just for not bothering to do it yourself.
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Chris ******
Elías Molina exactly this
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Ernesto ********
Elías Molina US banks will close accounts for anyone without US residential address. May have to deposit in Thai bank then
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Elías Molina If you have to rely on the 800k to gain interest you not the target market💁
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Elías ********
Clinty Williams for retirement visa? They've granting it to penniless people (also, not only) since the beginning of times.
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Elías Molina doesn’t make sense from a business point of view. If you have the money, you can get someone to do the paperwork cheap. Why pay all the extra money to not do a simple transfer of you Jane the funds and risk being deported and banned ?

Is can be just as easy to get skneke to do it the right way. And cheaper.
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Elías Molina if you that that rich pop in 800k baht and dnt use an agency easy
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Clinty Williams for rich people, I will say millionaires, not billionaires, Billionaires do not need any visa or something like that in any of countries, for them, 1000 USD is like 100 USD, and 5,000 USD is like 500 USD. They can spend it at any time without thinking deeply. But if it is more than
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USD, they surely think of how to spend it or where to put it. Thai agents fee is 1000 USD? so for them it is just 100 USD. Why they do it by themselves without agent???😂😂😂
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Young agreed! exactly what I am saying if you rich why complain about 800k baht simple
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Young because putting our own 800k baht without an agent putting their money is more legal. We don't mind losing money on near-zero intrest. Why pay money for doing something illegal if you have the money to do it legal ?

Doesn't make any sense if you have the money. Because we can get a bit more intrest somewhere else ? What do I need that little bit of money for ? What would I spend it on ? There is nothing I could possibly think of.
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BC Farang Ok, you think so. fine. It is your money and your life. how to do it is fully up to you. noone bothers you. It sounds very irony for me. Why so many farangs do not want to buy condo in thailand, even it is their name on it? Yes risiky and not a good investment at all. That is why the always rent. Yes low risky and if things go wrong, they will lose only deposit. not a big money at all. They can easily exit at any time without big loss. Being rich now does not mean being rich for ever. If you think I can lose 800k thb and nothing effect at all in your life? You are never close to being wealthy at all, because rich retired people really care to keep their money, not earning money. Most of them tend to invest in safe and stable ways. not a risky business. Most of them have a lot of savings. but enough and enough for their rest of life. However, they have no special income like big investment. They just want to keep their money safe, so that they can spend it all before die. Maybe, 50 years long. without any income, including interest at all. Thailand is not safe place for them to keep their money. And they like simple ways to get and spend their money. And, they always have exit plan, simple and easy exit plan. They also clearly know what is foreigner in Thailand, or other foreign countries. foreigners can be evicted at any time regardless of you put money in Thai bank or not. regardless of you are totally legal or not. Just be aware of this, regardless of your 800K thb in your thai bank. If you do not understand this, fine, it is your life and live as you think. Good luck
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Young foreigners DO buy condos in Thailand. That decision is just personal preference.

Buying a condo is NOT only about investment. Some people have the money and want peace of mind owning it and doing what they want with it and not have to worry that some day they have to move out.

There are several pro and con factors. For others there is peace of mind in renting so that they can move to another place anytime. It just depends on what you want and what your financial situation is.
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BC Farang exactly
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Young your reply is confusing. But let me address some points : keeping a few million baht in Thailand is not a problem if you have enough, it has nothing to do with "Thailand being not safe".

For some a million baht is their whole life savings, for others it is just some cash in a drawer.

Of course nobody wants to lose a million baht, but for some losing it is a disaster. For others it will not change their life at all, makes no difference. For someone who is poor or just not rich, they will have 500 baht less at the exact moment they pay something. Between paying and receiving money their welath stays the same.

For someone who is rich, a million baht less or more fluctuation in wealth can happen during the time they watch a movie in their sofa.

So why would a few million baht in a Thai bank account then be a problem even if you don't really trust Thai banks that much ?

You always need some spending money anyway.
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Elías ********
Clinty Williams rich people don't trust the Thai banking system
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BC ********
Elías Molina dude, we don't think Thai banking system will collapse overnight. And though we don't like losing money, it wouldn't make any difference in my life at all if I'd suddenly lose 800k baht. 800k is a normal day fluctuation anyway.

800k is not big enough to lose any sleep over it not trusting the Thai banking system.
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Elías Molina no, for rich people 800,000 baht is nothing, they wouldn't care about the interest from that either. And FYI the real rich are using the Thai elite visa, they don't bother renewing it yearly.
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Todd *********
Strength AndWill Elite visa lol? It's the poor man's LTR. If you can't qualify for LTR, you can easily buy Thai privilege
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Strength AndWill you really dont know Thailand and Thai banks. Even Thai people do not put such money into Thai banks. yes 800K Thb is not a big amount at all. Rich people can put it at any time if they want. so why hurry?? if they want or if they can trust Thai bank, and other Thai Authorities, like tax office, They can put it at any time. And, anyway, rich people always hire Agents. They usually do not like hassle, stress, problem with foreign authorities. Why? They are rich. rich people always put the highest value on time, not on money itself. And, they always try safe ways for their money. Safe and stable. this two things are very important for them. so, Thailand is sadly not safe and stable yet for the money. That is why they always hire agents and pay well for them. Rich people always like simple and easy way. So using agent is simple and easy for them. One more important thing, rich people always think of exit plans. If something happens to them in Thailand, they want to exit in easy way. That is also why they use agent. Hopefully you understand this. If not, it is fine. You live your life, they live their life.
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Strength AndWill the richer you are, the most you care for the interests 😂
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PeacefulTa***********
Elías Molina Rich people don't get a retirement visa, they opt for an elite visa.
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Strength *********
Elías Molina yes, but that is for big money, not for 800k
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Brandon ************
A couple of minutes. All they do is transfer the money, have the bank print the statement and update the bank book, then you return the funds.
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@Brandon ***********
not true anymore. The 800k have to stay overnight in your account before it can be transferred back
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@Sandra ***************
No, it doesn't. An agent is not going to let you hold onto that much of their money overnight. They are never going to let you out of their sight until that money is back in their account a few minutes later.
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@Brandon ***********
I just renewed my visa 4 weeks ago and the banks wouldn't issue the paper anymore without the money being in the account overnight
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@Sandra ***************
What you can do and what an agent can do are completely different.
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@Brandon ***********
I used an agent
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Sue **********
Sandra Henning Lüdin so how did the agent solve it then?
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@Brandon ***********
No. My bank account opened by an agency, had no trace of 800,000 ever deposited. My bank book, showed only 2,000 THB, that I deposited.
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Jim Davis i also asked so called anti agent people here about this many times before, but no answers. If the agent really put the money into the bank account, it must be recorded in bankbook and transaction history. even it just in and out for seconds, it must be in transaction history. But nothing there. How could the agent do this? They can do a magic?
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Matts *************
Young if the agent is well connected with the bank, they can get the letter stating your balance, without actually moving any money

corruption is great when you can afford it
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