Retiring to Thailand from UK mid October maybe 19th. I have the 800k in Uk ready to transfer once I get a Thai account. No thai bank account yet, most likely to go K bank Roi Et. I have yellow book, Thai id. Driving licence ect. Confused. Either go, none immigrant O or OA? Based on retirement. I've filled both applications in but not submitted yet. Getting conflicting info on which is best. Anyone gone on either of these recently?
If OA, what return date would you enter on the application?
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A user is planning to retire to Thailand from the UK and is confused about whether to apply for a Non-O or OA retirement visa. They have the necessary funds but haven't opened a Thai bank account yet. The community offers various perspectives, suggesting that applying for a Non-O visa might be simpler due to lesser health insurance requirements, while the OA visa has specific stipulations, including mandatory health insurance. Additional advice includes discussing options with immigration experts and the potential challenges of obtaining a bank account.
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OA from outside Thailand, your UK account will meet requirements. Type O from inside Thailand, convert from a tourist visa, for this you will need a Thai account which is where the issues can arise as it is currently more difficult to open and is effectively a Catch 22 scenario. If you can work it out then I prefer the type O.
Richard *******************
Looks like there is conflicting instructions in multiple official sources. I did it the way I described in sometime around February, maybe things have changed. I did not get asked to provide any proof of medical insurance or police certificate as described below. I got the tourist visa from Malaysia evisa service whilst in Malaysia, then converted it in Thailand at my local immigration. I am looking at the TM87 form now that I used to convert from a tourist visa to a 90 day non O visa at Trang immigration. I can see the stamps in my passport relating to both.
People I know here who have already got the OA visa got it before coming here in their own country.
From Thai Embassy...
To obtain a Thai retirement visa from within Thailand, you must first hold a different, valid visa (like a 90-day Non-Immigrant Visa), then apply to convert it at an immigration office after meeting age (50+) and financial (e.g., 800,000 THB bank deposit or 65,000 THB monthly income) requirements. You'll need to provide financial proof, a health insurance policy, proof of accommodation, and apply for the yearly visa within your existing visa's validity period.
1. Obtain a 90-Day Non-Immigrant Visa
You cannot directly convert a tourist visa or visa exemption into a retirement visa.
First, you'll need to enter Thailand on a different visa that allows for conversion, such as a 90-day Non-Immigrant O visa.
2. Meet Eligibility Requirements
You must be 50 years of age or older.
You must meet the financial requirements, which include:
A security deposit of at least 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank account held for at least two months.
Or a monthly income (e.g., pension) of at least 65,000 Baht, verified by an income letter from your embassy or bank statements.
Or a combination of income and bank deposits totaling 800,000 Baht.
3. Gather Supporting Documents
Proof of your chosen financial option (bank statements, income verification letter).
A medical certificate showing you have no prohibitive diseases.
Proof of health insurance that meets Thai government criteria for inpatient and outpatient coverage.
A valid Thai Police Clearance Certificate.
Proof of accommodation, such as a rental agreement and a TM30 form.
4. Apply for the Retirement Visa Conversion
Apply at a Thai immigration office within Thailand.
This application must be made before your current 90-day visa expires.
5. Maintain Your Visa
You must make a 90-day address report to the immigration office every 90 days.
To renew the visa, you will need to present similar financial and health documents.
And this from siam legal
Retirement Visa Thailand (Updated 2025) | Siam Legal International
You can get the O inside Thailand if you already have a Thai bank account but the easiest way is to get it in your home Country, you then have no problems opening a Thai bank account in preparation for the yearly extension of stay. This is the route most people take.
last week in my branch of Bangkok Bank was an English man who recently arrived on his OA visa for retirement purpose, opened a new account 2 weeks before and now they were telling him they were going to close his account but they were unable to give any reason why. I signposted him to a reasonable priced monthly subscription legal service as he had planned to get expensive legal advice from Siam Legal in Bangkok.
from your own country you would get an OA. If you already left your country them 'most people' would not be going home to just get an OA visa. As I said, all the visa rules are clearly explained online with a simple search.
you were asking how to get the retirement visa but now you say you were asking how to get a bank account. As I explained, it is as I described, the current situation is Catch 22, you can not get one without the other and visa versa. I am ok because I already have both, but new applicants have this issue, however, if you search on Google and YouTube there are instructions on how it can be done. Just, never pay an agent, it is just another form of corruption for people who have more money than sense snd do not want to learn any skills for themselves.
I converted mine in January this year I think it was, in Trang immigration office. Search Google using "procedure for a non immigrant o visa from within thailand". Some offices with little experience can get a little lost and confused. You can let the head office for Thai immigration know what uou were told and that may help. They are attempting to iron out these kind of issues I believe.
Normally no issues to apply for a Non O in country on a TM.86 for a tourist visa and TM.87 for visa exemption, but a very few immigrations donāt offer this service.
contact immigration in Bangkok and report the problem. Maybe they can help.
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Andy *****
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Thanks gents. I'll let you all know how things progress. I thought a non o was a slam dunk option. Still looks the same. Just a bit worried about all the problems around getting a bank account with the the non o applied for in the UK. Everything else falls into place with my situation.
Andy *****
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Thanks to everyone for replies. None O looks like the most favoured option.
I donāt think thereās more to say than this if you have a hint of insight or understanding;
Both the 90-day Non O visa and the one year Non O-A visa are subject to the following eligibility criteria: the applicant must have attained the age of 50 years and must demonstrate either (1) a monthly income of not less than 65,000 baht, or (2) financial assets in the amount of not less than 800,000 baht.
In addition to the foregoing, the Non O-A visa shall require the applicant to obtain and maintain valid health insurance issued by an insurer authorized in Thailand, to present a medical certificate attesting to the applicantās health status, and to provide a police clearance certificate issued by the competent authority of the applicantās country of residence.
The Non O visa shall entitle the holder to an initial period of stay not over 90 days. An application for an extension of stay may thereafter be submitted on an annual basis, subject to the same financial and age related conditions as set forth above.
The Non O-A visa shall entitle the holder to a period of stay not exceeding 1 year, extendable for a further period of 1 year contingent upon the renewal of valid health insurance for the second year.
Upon the expiry of the said two-year period, the holder of a Non O-A visa shall be required to apply for extensions of stay on an annual basis under the same conditions as applicable to the Non O visa, provided, however, that the obligation to maintain valid Thai health insurance shall remain in force for the duration of the holderās lawful stay in the Kingdom of Thailand.
And Andy, both the NonO and Non O-A visas are exempt from the onward ticket requirement ā you only need to provide a travel itinerary, but you donāt need to upload any flight tickets.
You can obtain a cost-free initial discussion on your Visa options from Lawyers for Expats (Thailand) - Brian Ramsden and his business colleague, Mint. Brian and his Business Partner, Pook also specialise in giving advice on property rental contracts, land-lease contracts and house purchase contracts as well as personal estate protection in Thailand via Thai-written Wills.
Lynnette *******
OA has to maintain medical insurance from one of the few insurers they approve. The visa is linked to that. So as you plan to use retirement options and have the money to deposit I'd say the Non-O before you go is probably best.
John *********
I will be following you 6 weeks later Andy!!
I have an agent highly recommended in London and doing a Type O then based on marriage in my case.
You're basically paying for someone who knows how to merge more than one document into one pdf. š¤
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Jan ******************
Best option is to apply for a regular Non-O first and then do an extension of stay, unless you want to maintain the mandatory Thai health insurance requirement for all your future extensions.