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What can expats expect regarding visa regulations in Thailand as of December 2025?

Dec 12, 2025
12 hours ago
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Arrived in Bangkok 11 December

This is not something I dreamed up.

Previous retirement visa but COVID and a death in the family screwed that up. So in

November 2024 Visa exempt with 30 day extention. Left the country for a week and back from Vientiane to get another Visa exempt and left before the 60 days in April 2025. That entry did raise a few eyebrows and required input of a senior IO but nothing was said. That was the only visa run done.

For the record, no over stays or any other issues in 35 odd years. A clean slate as far as I am aware.

On arrival got taken out the queue to the immigration office. Had to fill out a Passenger Information Form and was told I needed a Wife visa. The IO supervisor, firm but polite, wanted to see Baht 20,000 CASH, marriage certificate 35 years married to a Thai, wife ID card and a ticket out of Thailand. I had a genuine reservation to Ho Chi Ming city, thought that might be helpful.

I was given a 60 day visa exempt and TOLD in no uncertain terms to get the correct visa. I doubt if a 30 day extension will be given

On a side note there was another Brit who seemed to have been stopped for visa "irregularities" and told to return to the UK. When he asked if he could buy a ticket to Loas he was told no, go back to the UK.

There were at least 6 others in the office, the one where seniors over 70 can fast track, being interviewed.

So there will be two types people that will read this.

1. Those who think this will not happen to them and continue to think visa exempt is the way to long term stays. Your entitlement will be your undoing.

2. Those that will take on my experience and be prepared. I honestly believed that the ticket to Vietnam saved me from being sent back to the UK.

So why did not get the correct visa before coming. I have been trying to get funds out of a fund run by STM Malta, useless company, for 4 months. They keep changing the goal posts.

Far too many posts thinking this is a joke it is not. Long term stays require a visa.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The post provides a detailed account of a recent experience with immigration in Thailand, highlighting the challenges and requirements faced by expats regarding visa regulations. The author describes arriving in Bangkok under a visa exemption and the subsequent request for a marriage certificate, cash, and proof of onward travel. The narrative stresses the importance of obtaining the correct long-term visa rather than relying on visa exemptions, emphasizing that immigration processes are increasingly strict and that missteps could result in serious consequences. The comments further discuss the frustrations and difficulties encountered by other expats in similar situations, suggesting a significant shift in immigration policies affecting long-term stays.
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Raymond *********
Many will not agree with me but I don't care. As far as I am concernant, you are preaching to the quire.

Point one : it is their God given right to be .... thai IO don't have to explain ,discuss or negotiate thai laws. They may have done it 70 times, doesn't mean it will work again but it's their right to try it. American's have a saying about their farmer's situation FAFI.

Point 2. In french we call it : une vérité de Lapalisse, like saying the sky is blue
Jean ************
I had 2 choice in immigration office go back home in within 7 day or visa retirement I take the second one $$$ That was my second entry
Nev ********
We had the same thing happen about a year ago now, told very politely by senior IO to get long term visa , let us in . We got the OA visa and very happy we did given current situation.
Mark *********
I think another point is to make sure that your wider eco-system accords with the "facts" you claim. I've just done the simple Facebook search that Immigration can and do undertake. The entries scream out that the guy involved (not the poster here) is a long-term resident. It takes 2 minutes max to work that out. Why not get the correct visa? Equally why not get any visa? Admittedly from the armchair, I see a pattern that visa exempt is the flash point infinitely more than tourist visas.
Collywobble **********
@Mark ********
for old people online visa application is problemmatic
Ivan ************
@Ma**
I'm going to guess that "Farang Walking" isn't the name in his passport that immigration will know to search Facebook for.
Mark *********
@Ivan ***********
True, but most don't take even the most elementary precautions. And, as said, the reference was not the poster here.
Luke *********
Dot the I's and cross the Ts.
Jo **********
so it’s important to understand the history of 2025 you were last in Thailand in April 2025? And you were out of Thailand for 6 months before returning? If this is the case how they treated you is extremely unreasonable
Graham ******
@Jo *********
the fact that the OP qualified for a marriage Non-O (and possibly retirement) did not help
Jo **********
@Graham *****
understand but if your not in the country for 7 months a visa should not be necessary
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jo *********
that's about it. But hey their rules
Henry *********
Did you have the 20,000 cash on you?
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Henry ********
yes. After reading this site ensured I did. Had Baht, Euros, US, and Pounds. He did not count it but just saw the wad of notes
Marcus ************
They are dead set on killing tourism in this country.
Robbie ********
@Rick ********
, duh!!!!
John *******
@Marcus ***********
They are not tourists.
Rick *********
@Marcus ***********
it’s not effecting tourism it’s stamping out the rule breakers, do you think regular tourists stay over 60 days and do boarder runs 🤷‍♂️
Robbie ********
@Rick ********
, if you follow the Thailand laws to a tee, say last year you could stay up to 180 days a year what laws have you broken ? You stayed the amount of time the Thailand law allowed so you broke no laws. If Thailand don’t want people to stay for the whole amount of time they offer then why in hell do they offer that amount of time in country to start with. Makes no sense at all.
Rick *********
@Robbie *******
I’ll say again you can stay as long as you like as long as you get the correct visa, what’s hard to understand, the boarder runs have always been a grey area now there just clamping down
Robbie ********
@Rick ********
, I’ll say again Thailand laws were put into place by Thailand. Last year you could stay in country for 60 days on a visa exemption get a 30 day extension do a border run and start the process all over again for a total of 180 days a year by Thailand law. It was Thailand law not made up Thailand set that law. Now if you try and go back in after a year now they all of a sudden they come up with this 150 days only and are trying to use that against people who stayed in Thailand for 180 days last year but it was there law that they created. If Thailand only wants people to stay in country for Two weeks then why do they over the 60 days exemption and a 30 day extension. It’s totally BS. You follow the law according to Thailand policy and then you get punished for it. That’s some crazy crap.
Fred ******
@Robbie *******
You make a good point. The problem is these are not laws. Just some random rules the person currently running immigration pulls out of his ass. The current one is extemely xenaphobic and anti-western. This whole mess started with Chinese scam call centers on the Cambodian and Myanmar borders. Of course the solution is going after western tourists. The most idiodic part of this if Chinese criminals need to be in Thailand for whatever reason they just get a non-imigrant Visa. Damage your tourism revenue for absolutely nothing.
Rick *********
@Robbie *******
I’ve been coming to Thailand for over 20 years you used to get 30 visa exempt and a 15 day stamp if you did a border run but it’s irrelevant you need to follow the rules/laws as they are now not as they were 🙏
Fred ******
@Rick ********
It sure is going cause a loss of a lot of lost tourist dollars. There is a category of tourist that travel for extended periods of time and have no desire to live in Thailand. This is the reason for the 60 day exemption and the reason EU, Malaysia and Taiwan etc have 90 day visa exempt. They are also "high value" at the higher end of the spending range. They also travel around the country and not over-crowd a few spots like the chinese tour groups and western tourists on a two week trip. If they want to cut the abuse, just set a max number of days to 150 which I understand is also a new rule. Easy.
John **********
@Fred *****
visa exempt is intended for short term tourism. If you want to spend an extended time in Thailand get the correct visa
Fred ******
@John *********
What is "short term tourism" and what is "extended stay". The 60 days visa exempt with a 30 days extention was created to accomodate more wealthy tourists that have more freedom to travel.
John **********
@Fred *****
theres nothing wrong with coming for 90 days on visa exempt, but trying to repeat that in short order is the problem. For any normal tourist that is more than enough time, then they go back home. Anything more than that is an extended stay in my view and people should get an appropriate visa.
Fred ******
@John *********
The thing is your view is completely irrelevent. Thailand has set the policy there is a limit of two visa exempt entries each with 60 days and one 30 day extension and one 7 day extension. So a maximum 157 days. If you don't like the rules here then go to another country.
John **********
@Fred *****
you quote the guidelines given to immigration officers as to how to deal with persistent border bouncers. The rules do not define any limits for visa exempt entries, nor any limits for extensions other than the standard 30 days. So all one can do is take a view as to whether or not a visa is required, either that or wait and see what the immigration officer says when one stands in front of them
Fred ******
@John *********
The rules are clear as stated. Misinformation from these senile "waiting to die" idiots that there are no rules is not helpful to anyone.
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Fred Aker but it does not. I had one 60 day exempt for both 2024 and 2025.

60+30, the 60+30, then 7 is 187 days. You then are a tax resident which they are trying to hide.
Rick *********
@Fred *****
I’d like to see some evidence to support your claims otherwise it’s just an opinion
Fred ******
@Rick ********
I fall into this category and know many others.
Rick *********
@Fred *****
so if you want to stay longer get the correct visa I don’t see what’s so difficult 🤷‍♂️
Fred ******
@Rick ********
I don't want to stay longer. The current Visa exempt option is perfectly fine with me. The issue I have is the limit of two Visa exempt entries which simply can be solved by using Malaysia as my base for visting other countries in the region. And we are back to my original statement that tourism will be damaged as most tourists want to visit other countries as an add-on to a trip to Thailand.
Rick *********
@Fred *****
It is of no consequence that you have issue with the visa exemption rules the fact is it’s their country and their rules 🙏
Fred ******
@Rick ********
I have no issue with visa exemption rules at all. As I have already stated I am perfectly happy to use Malaysia as a base. Thailand looses, Malaysia (or other country) wins and I really don't care which country gets my money.
Rick *********
@Fred *****
I’m sure Thailand will be gutted at the loss 🤣
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Fred Aker i had one in 2024 and one in 2025. Down to the IO
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Rick ********
well I did one!
Rick *********
@Farang ********
and would you class yourself as a regular tourist, ie 2 to 3 week holiday 🤔
Fred ******
@Rick ********
You seem to have a bizare idea people only take 2-3 week holidays. I have never taken less than 5 weeks with banked hours and extended leave. I am not even from Europe where starting at 4 weeks is the norm.
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Rick ********
well retired, no job, no intention of getting a job, no intention involving my self in any activity financial to earn cash, live in my own country most of the year and travel when not in my own. So you seem to know. But if I were to visit any country more than once does that make me a tourist or a resident. Better tell my son I can no longer visit him in the EU.

The bottom line is what are you doing whilst in a country. However if you are in a country for more than 180 days you are a resident. I am in my home country for longer than that. My home country is not Thailand
Fred ******
@Farang ********
EU rules are very clear. 60 days in a rolling 180 day period. No limit on the number of entries. You will get a lot of sqawking from the senile old gits... "not a tourist" or "their rules" or "get the correct visa". Unfortunately, their caregivers have not explained the context of the thread. So more like random farts in the wind.
Rick *********
@Farang ********
you can enter Thailand as many times as you like on the correct visa
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Rick ********
yeah, but it was the cash requirement which is now resolved. So off to immigration to register and ask a few questions. Should be cleared up shortly. I believe the wife visa the the IO told me to get is an O-visa
Rick *********
@Farang ********
the O-visa is a 90day non immigration visa it’s the one I’m on at the moment I plan on extending based on marriage in the new year, hope you get sorted 🙏👍
Dennis *********
@Rick ********
lots of people travel extensively when they reach financial independence. When I cruised across the Pacific I met so many people that all they do is travel.

Thailand making it more difficult will see a reduction in tourists as the stories start leaking — I’ve already seen two stories calling for clarification from Thai Immigration.
Rick *********
@Dennis ********
then get the correct visa if you want to stay long term it’s not rocket science, my wife had to get the correct visa to enter the UK and it cost a lot more than Thailand
Marcus ************
@Rick ********
you’re talking a lot of smack that you don’t know anything about. Figures from the UK. Have a good day bloke
Rick *********
@Marcus ***********
all I’m saying is it’s there country follow the rules get the correct visa or leave
Dennis *********
@Rick ********
so WTF IS visa free entry for? Why have 30 day extension possible? Why is there no specific limit allowed in black and white for amount of days allowed in Thailand?

Stop with the correct visa nonsense because two similar tourists coming into Thailand and one gets entry while other is denied. Thailand will suffer as these stories grow on the internet and in the media.

I could honestly care less what they do. Fewer tourists means less crowded and more competition for my disposable money
Rick *********
@Dennis ********
there is a black and white limit it’s now being enforced and the border bouncers don’t like it 😂
Farang *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Rick ********
i agree. I will push the limits but honestly compared to others and only one border run to my name!!! Thats life, will deal with it.
Fred ******
@Dennis ********
You are spot on with the idiotic "correct visa" non-sense. You are 100% correct about clear communication being required. Even the hotel association in Thailand is calling for clear rules. The big problem is there are people in Thai govenment that understand there are different kind of tourists and at the same time have a uneducated xenaphobic running the immigration department. Who also sqawks the idiotic "Anyone staying more than two weeks is not a tourist and is a criminal". Really all this non-sense started with scammer call centers on the border with Cambodia and Myanmar. So Immigration decided to go after western tourists. The stupidity is mind boggling.
Frank ******
Don't you worry about that
Marcus ************
@Frank *****
just passively observing. Amusing actually.
Randy ********
I’ll add to this ie; Bangkok immigration office (for extensions)

I was at Lak Si getting my extension yesterday and the amount of people only offered the 7 days was insane. The majority of them that I seen refused the 7 days. Also, I’m there very often and this was the least amount of people I’ve ever seen in the 10+ years of using these offices. I would say only about 20% of the old ways. They are going to lose a lot of money with these lack of extensions.
IndigoJa********
Good informative post .
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