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What are the steps to take when facing an overstay situation in Thailand while transitioning to an ED visa?

Chiang Mai Visa Extension Non-O Visa Visa Overstay ED Visa Work Permit

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Live in Chiang Mai

Extension of stay for non-O volunteer til Feb 5th

Work permit expired Jan 6th and was not planning to renew WP/visa

Ticket on Jan 22nd to HCMC to change to ED visa

Assuming from what I read I can't avoid an overstay fee, which is my bad... just a  bad combination of foundation being closed for holidays, new foundation never having done this before, and my naivete. So what's the best course of action/steps to be taken (hopefully with as little to no effort done by the foundation as that will just delay things)?

Do I go to MaeSai ASAP for a 2 week visa on arrival and show my outward travel and ED documents or do I need to need to pay overstay fines at immigration first? Do I need to bother going to the employment office now that it's already expired?

Thanks in advance. I've had my ass kicked with all the volunteer visa + work permit drama (as a small new foundation) in CM for too long and my brain is a bit fried.

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A user living in Chiang Mai is facing an overstay issue because their work permit expired on January 6 and their Non-O volunteer visa has been extended only until February 5. With a planned ticket to Ho Chi Minh City on January 22 to change to an ED visa, they are unsure how to proceed without incurring heavy overstay fees. Comments suggest taking specific steps, including returning to the Ministry of Labor to surrender the expired work permit and deal with the immigration office before heading to Mae Sai for a new visa.

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Depending on the docs the organization you were working for gave you when you left, you may not be on overstay when you leave the country, but you cant get a 15 day visa on arrival at Mai Sai. Depending on your country of origin you may be able to get a 30 day visa exemption if you've cleared everything ìn Thailand

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Steve *******

Steve *******

Ah yes, misread the OPs post.

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Robert *******

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You are not allowed to work without the work permit, this expired on 6th of Jan, this means his Extension of Stay should be cancelled on that day.

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Robert *******

Robert *******

First you hand in your Work Permit at the ministry of labor, get the documents that you finished volunteering at Jan 6th. Than visit the Immigration Office if you have an Extension of Stay. Cancel this and leave to Mea Sai to pay the overstay. You can not do a border run without cancelling the Extension of Stay first. I do not know what the country of origin is, so can not tell you if you can get a 15 day Visa on Arrival or 30 day Visa Exempt Entry.

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Robert *******

Robert *******

I posted this yesterday: "get the documents that you finished volunteering at Jan 6th".

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John ********

John ********

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Yes yes, I know this now, would've been nice if you'd made that a biiiit more clear before I went to do that yesterday, but it is what it is. Doing that tomorrow.

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Robert *******

Robert *******

You need a letter from the organization that you actually stopped working for them.

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John ********

John ********

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I dunno, I'm too logical to assume you need to expire expired things. Seems a double negative.

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Robert *******

Robert *******

Don't know from which country you're. But try this in your home country, walk into an Office tell them without any documents provided to do something. You will get the same answer.

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John ********

John ********

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Apparently it's not enough evidence that I'm no longer working there to just have an expired work permit... they wouldn't let me hand it in and are insisting I still do the proper paperwork to cancel my nonexistent work. TIT

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John ********

John ********

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Will agree to disagree, but that's your opinion in that matter.

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Robert *******

Robert *******

I do not know how long you live in Chang Mai, what the purpose of you stay is in Chang Mai, But getting out of visa drama by using now an ED visa is not the solution.

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John ********

John ********

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Okay thanks. I only omitted my country as it wasn't relevant, I'm leaving to HCMC in 9 days (8 days in an hour) and both amounts are more than that. Cheers. Glad to be done with visa drama, even if it means I get a little more fees squeezed out of me before I'm free of the work permit's hold.

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Robert *******

Robert *******

You can hand in the Work Permit yourself as it is your work permit and not from the foundation. The Extension of Stay is in your passport. so you can go by yourself.

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John ********

John ********

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(to employment)

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John ********

John ********

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As it's already expired and not a matter of cancelling, the foundation doesn't have to come with, yes?

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