What are the key details and considerations for the 10-year Non-Immigrant Type O-X visa in Thailand?

Sep 1, 2017
7 years ago
Tod *********
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I thought this was a fairly accurate representation of the 10 year Non-Immigrant Type O-X visa they came out with.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The 10-year Non-Immigrant Type O-X visa allows for a stay of up to 5 years with potential for a second 5-year stay. There are discussions around its financial requirements, age limits (minimum 20 years), and the necessity for a letter to prove a clean criminal record, which varies by country. The visa is seen by some as less appealing compared to the Thai Elite Visa, which has no age limit and is less burdensome in terms of paperwork. Concerns also arise regarding the financial capabilities of foreigners wishing to secure long-term visas, with some predicting low participation in the O-X visa program due to its restrictive nature.
Ron *******
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Ron *******
There's a minimum age limit of 20 years old to be granted a visa.

Different if your a family member.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
The up side of the Thai Elite Visa versus this one is you can be almost any age and get the elite one.

edited ;)
Jason *******
Where are you supposed to get a letter saying you don't have a criminal record?
Tero ************
It depends on your country. My country you get it from The Legal Register Centre which is an agency in the administrative sector of the Ministry of Justice.
Jeremy ********
Police station
Jeremy ********
If you want to get it it might be a cheaper alternative to the Elite Visa but you have to do it tactically...get it at age 45-46 then segue that into a normal retirement visa
Joe ***********
Based on my own observations over at least 5 years monitoring sites like Thai Visa and others ... most over age 50 Expats in Thailand could not even think of considering this
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'visa' - far too costly. In fact I will venture to say that as much as 50% of those Expats on Extensions of Stay - Ret. / Over Age 50 would not qualify for an Extension of Stay - Ret. if their Embassy pressed for bank docs to prove their monthly income.. The only thing that saves them is the Don't Ask - Don't Tell policy that many Embassies of various countries have for obtaining an Income Affidavit/Letter...

This
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year over age 50 Long Stay Visa is a Pie in the Sky - fantasy dream of a group of Thai bureaucrats who have no real concept of Farang Monetary capability. It would seem these bureaucrats have the same mindset as many potential Thai girlfriends I have met - JD says he is not rich - but I know he is not telling the truth... The Thai bureaucrats have no understanding of the economic history of Western Countries of the past 25-30 years... There have been numerous economic recessions - many 'back to back' ...stripping many guys of the core of their investments, pensions, 401K plans, etc. One sided divorce laws in many Western Countries are another leveling factor... Result -- the main attraction for many if not most Western men is the ability to live better in Thailand on what they have left of their life's work... It is the small minority of Western men who come here with an impressive financial statement.

I predict this new
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year plan will fail totally in three years time and be mothballed due to a near total lack of participation.
Robert ********
You raise a good pint JD, when I was on a 3MB investment visa and had to extend it once each year at DMSP, it took the IO's several minutes to find the stack of files for those of use that signed up for the program. Our files were kept together and I saw there were 13 of us.
David ************
1, 5, 10 year extension of stay doesn't bother me much. It's the 90 day report that's the pain in the ass. I'd pay money to rid myself of that but I think it's required no matter what visa we have.
David ************
@Lance ******
married a Thai girl I met some years earlier. Her family owns a few plantations so she needed to stay close to home so being in Thailand was the only viable option.
Lance *******
Why did you leave?
David ************
Lived and worked in Italy for 17 years and there was none of this. Felt like it was my home.
Lance *******
Freedom? Money can't buy it these day's!
David ************
@Lance ******
I think they can report for you with the elite but I would think you still need to provide information to them. I live in Chumphon and the report is about 5 minutes. But just having to schedule around it and have it on my mind bothers me. Just don't feel freedom here.
Lance *******
I'll stick to the non o.
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@La***
, yep, but if you hold the Elite Visa in Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Pattaya and I think Phuket they report for you.

You still hafta drop your passport off to them and then pick it back up though. :/
Lance *******
David is that with the elite visa too? 90 day reports?
Tero ************
Quote from page:

How long does it let me stay in Thailand for?

The visa lasts for 10 years, with a maximum stay of 5 years. So potentially you could do two stays of 5 years each. Confused? Okay: so you stay 5 years, leave the country, come back again and activate the next 5 years, Simple.

True or not true. So you get always 5-year stamp when crossing the border and extension for another 5 years is not needed provided you make borderhop just before expiredate and apply re-entrypermit if needed outside trips for the last 5 years?
Tero ************
Well let see. If stamps are always 5 year, then this visa maby is not so bad after all :)
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
no one knows because no one has this visa.

From what I understood when I read the thai version it's sold like this. You get the multi-entry visa valid for 5 years, and you'd be stamped into the country for a completely new year every time you entered the country. I didn't see where they said people would get stamped in for 5 years just that the visa was valid for that long.

At the end of the first 5 years you'd apply for an extension for another 5 years and you'd need to have the required financial amount in the bank again.

Or at least that's how I understood it when I read the thai version.
James *********
i really wish they would make at least a 5 year visa for the younger generation that have property or children in Thailand that pays there way. always seems to be aimed for over 50s i would happily meet this criteria if they came up with some visa for us. The every year having to get a visa is sometimes a pain in the ass for me. considering my mrs got a 5 year tourist visa in my country easy because we have a son ect it should be like this both ways. only m opinion
Tod *********
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David, I didn't know if that "newspaper worker" wage was real because it's just 20K baht a month :O That's why I left it off.
Robert ********
Elite visa doesn't allow for work permits.
Lance *******
Doesn't the elite visa cover that?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
David, unless I'm wrong there isn't a financial requirement for a work permit.

The financial requirement (unless you're a volunteer for free) is in getting yearly extensions of stays. Teachers are exempt from the minimum.

It's broken down by country like this:

Canada, Japan, United States 60,000 THB

Europe (incl. UK) Australia 50,000 THB

Hong Kong, Malaysia, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan 45,000 THB

China, India, Indonesia, Middle East, Philippines 35,000 THB

Africa, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Vietnam 25,000 THB
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
David, sorry, :/.
Steven ***********
same here mate. I've been questioned once or twice at Suvarnabhumi when getting my connection to Udon Thani....
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
David Broadfoot, I believe you are confusing the minimum amount to get an extension based on marriage to the minimum amount to hold a work permit.

You can get a work permit as a volunteer here.

Also I know a lot of foreigners here who work and have work permits but don't make the threshold amount to get extensions and instead they have the withholding tax done as if they did. :O
James *********
@Steven **********
i was getting hassle coming in and out every month in phuket so got the visa. Now am moving to Buriram city this next trip the tourist life has finally caught up.
Steven ***********
Sound mate
James *********
if u need any help let me know even i managed to do it myself lol
James *********
@Steven **********
yeah god bless oil and gas haha. I started with getting her a 6 month tourist then we had the kid and got the house ect and them applied for the bigger one and was granted easy. Would be brutal to not give the mother of your son with a uk passport a visa to visit a few times a year. was all done in 10 days. id advise get the 6 month first then 2 year one then 5 then 10 if you planning living in thailand for good but if move to uk then get a settlement visa but fuck that lol.
Steven ***********
Was it simple to get your missus the 5Y tourist mate? It sounds like we both work a similar job and are in similar situations. God bless Oil & Gas 😂
Tim ******
David Broadfoot I would of loved to get the 1 year extension based on marriage, but I have absolutely no way to furnish 400,000 ฿ in an account or prove that I make 40,000฿ because I make less than half of that a month.
James *********
yeah its like the stone age too much paper work maybe in 20 years will go computerized lol
Tim ******
I live in the old capital.
Tim ******
Thank you James. The immigration office stamped for a year, but everything from my employer was scrutinized by the inspector. I was supposed to be stamped till July 2018, but they put a void stamp in there. It will be annoying having to go back to Bangkok, but it will be much better once everything is completed. Hopefully, I can obtain that 1 year extension based on supporting wife and already having a WP. Also, I might be able to get a tambon baan. The only hiccup, is that immigration just loves mounds of paperwork and wants to see seals from the US embassy and MFA in addition to all documents being translated in Thai.
James *********
@Tim *****
i dont have it that bad as i dont work in Thailand. i work over seas on a month on month off rotation and i make my yearly visa in the embassy in Qatar it was not too hard tbh. i guess what i would really like is a 5 year visa. and as i leave every month i dont have to do the 90 day reporting. I hope you get your issues fixed
Tim ******
Since living here for year, it has been one exhausting and expensive pain in the ass.
Tim ******
I agree it is a fucking pain in the ass. I am married to a Thai and have a baby on the way. Right now, I have a Non-Imm O visa but the extension is the tricky part. I am trying to get a 1 year extension based on working, but immigration is a pain in the ass and wants me to go all the way to Bangkok to notarize that my degree and transcripts are real. Thai law really involves too much paperwork, costing the foreigner a lot of money by having to go to there embassy to notarize crap for an expensive fee. For one notary, it cost $50. After that, they want you to get the documents translated from English to Thai and stamped with a red MFA stamp.
Joe ***********
I agree with Robert - if a person can tie up that much money - willing to forgo adequate interest, be constrained by the listed Insurance options... then likely such a person has 500,000 and will just simply forget this X option exists... The Elite Card at 500k is mostly buy and forget - except for 90 day reports... This whole thing strikes me as Day Dreaming done by some high raking Thai bureaucrats who actually have no clue about the mindset of Retired Farangs who have expendable cash.
Robert ********
No idea Tod, I guess that is why they offered less expensive membership options, which is easier than managing a financing program?
Tod *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Rob***
, I won't get into the 'compared to what other countries blah blah blah" discussion. :/ This place AIN'T other countries :O .

I was only making an observation that IF they carried people on the payments they'd get far more market share.
Robert ********
Tod, why should the Elite program need to offer financing when the cost of the various membership choices (together with the privileges and perks provided) are far less expensive when compared what other countries charge foreigners and their families for permission to remain long term ;-)? Membership is growing just fine, as is.
Tod *********
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@Rob***
, they do seem to be tryin' to cover the bases with the Elite program. I'm sure if they offered financing or a payment plan people would be lining up ;)
Robert ********
You'd think with 8 different visa options, provided the visitor has adequate funding, they would find some part of the Elite program suited to their needs.
Robert ********
IMO, If you are able to meet the financial requirement for this visa, then you can probably afford the Thailand Elite visa which, by comparison, offers far more benefits and perks with fewer headaches...
Michael ********
Holding 3 mill and spending 1 or 2 mill is very different. Good that people will have the choice.
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