What are the current hotel check-in requirements for Burmese citizens traveling to Myanmar?

@Mark ********

lol 😂

@Marcus **********

Yes. It's very bright because of military set fire to citizens, mostly remote areas across the country.

@Charles ***************

but definitely a 1st class idiot

@Shaun *******

Bro! This is what we do. Don't deny it!!

@Charles ***************

sexpat

@Jeff *******

I'm not in denial like you

@Charles ***************

you think everyone is like you and that somehow validated your creep status.

@Jeff *******

And proud of it!!!

@Marc *******

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. Only the official, government controlled checkpoints can be used for that purpose.

@Paul ******

yes... I was looking for a loophole😆

@Marc *******

Unfortunately, there are none. Myanmar is particularly unusual in a number of ways. Better go to Laos for border runs. The Golden Triangle border crossing, right next to Myanmar but servicing the casino on the Lao side is one such option. Catch boat there, get stamped in/out (they also offer visa on arrival) then come straight back. Don't know why so few westerners know about it or only talk about Chiang Khong. The boat and immigration checkpoint is popular with Chinese and it's located right in Sob Ruak, the Golden Triangle's main town on the Thai side, near several upmarket and luxury hotels.

@Paul ******

Sure I know what you mean. Same as you did know what I did mean the other day😆

No worries. No war today😆

@Marc *******

Anyway, it's all cool, I think you're quite aware of how things work in Myanmar by now too. Posts by

@Mai *******

have been very informative and useful.

@Paul ******

But actually what I wondering. I understand they have a civil war in Myanmar.

And not all regions are controlled by government forces. But rebells or other opposing groups controlling certain areas.

Are all land borders controlled by myanmar government or do some rebells control some borders?

How can rebels make agreement with Thai government about citizens crossing?

@Marc *******

OK that is a great question. The answer to your question is that the government controls all the official international checkpoints, while the rebels control the smaller, unofficial ones.

You'll find that at some of the smaller ones, the rebels might actually allow you to visit, sans passport/visa/entry fee. This is because they unofficially control a passageway that they claim is theirs but since it's still part of Myanmar/Burma, they have no ability to control entry via official means (passport/visa etc.)

However, in some cases, depending on the security situation, the Thai army may have the final say on whether one is allowed to cross or not as they often man checkpoints on the Thai side.

Some checkpoints are unmanned but are considered to be part of rebel territory.

I think there are some unofficial, local agreements between the Thai military and these rebel groups, allowing crossings during the day for locals and in some cases, foreigners too.

Some examples include:

The crossing 3km north of Ban Rak Thai, Mae Hong Son. One of the Shan state armies (I think it's the SSA) controls this border. On the Thai side, you might have to sign a log book at a checkpoint manned by the Thai army. You then get to walk over to the Burmese side, where a rebel soldier allows you to take his picture but doesn't demand anything from you. You're then permitted to roam around the border village, which has a small sundry shop, some noodle restaurants and a museum, which has exhibits in English, Thai and Shan language.

There's also a checkpoint off to the east, north of Pai, where there's a small town called "Loi Tai Leng" that celebrates Shan New Year. It's a popular point for expats up north who like to ride their motorcycles and 4x4s across and permission is granted to spend the night at the local monastery or school and camp. Not sure if that permission is only granted during Shan New Year or whether it applies year-round.

There's another border which is often used as a short-cut during the dry season, for motorists wanting to avoid the winding mountainous route between Mae Sot and Umphang. It's called the "Burmese short-cut" between Umphang (Nong Luang) and Waley. You pay 200 Baht to pass through, but no other documents are required. Foreigners can cross (or could, pre Covid). Not sure about now because Karen state is currently in a state of crisis.

@Paul ******

Interesting. So a border bounce would be possible into rebel's territory?

@Marc *******

Well, back in that case, it was necessary to differentiate between Thais and other foreigners mainly because Myawaddy (and some other border crossings) are allowing Thais to enter the country (though only on day trips or short term stays not venturing too far from the border) but they're not extending this privilege to foreigners from any other country.

This case is different, because clearly, other than the entry process for one day stays, Thais and foreigners from everywhere else undergo the same entry procedure and also when staying at hotels.

@Paul ******

I totally understand. My point just was technically Thais are foreigners too but different entry procedure applies to them.

Different category of foreigner I should have said to make it clear

@Mai *******

Is this Amphur located in Thailand or Myanmar?

@Mai *******

yeah Paul explained to you already.

You clearly misunderstood how the procedure works

@Mai *******

It still dosn't make sense to me. You go to a hotel... tell them you want to check in... they will check you in temporarely and you are not allowed to go to the room yet? You need to go to the Apoo first? He will sign a paper that you are allowed to check in at a hotel? Then you go back to the hotel and show them the paper that you are allowed to stay at the hotel and then they check you in?

Totally nonsense I don't believe it will happen anywhere in the world

@Mai *******

So now you are saying Thai citizens have to bring a form from Thailand that the Thai government allowes them to stay in a hotel in myanmar?

I don't believe it at all at all

@Mai *******

And citizens of Myanmar need a form from the Myanmar government allowing to check in at a hotel in Myanmar?

Is that what you are saying?

So Myanmar citizens are not allowed to stay in hotels unless they have approval from government?

@Mai *******

I only try to understand what you actually say how it works.

Ok let's assume I am a Thai citizen.

Before I cross the border to Myanmar I have to go to the Thai government to get approval for leaving the country and staying in a hotel in Myanmar?

Thai authorithies will give me a form?

Then I cross the border. And for check in the hotel in Myanmar will need the form from Thailand as proof I am allowed to stay in the hotel?

Am I understanding correctly?

@Mai *******

I know you didn't make the rules. But I believe you misunderstood something.

I believe you informing wrong. As it totally makes no sense.

And many other people here don't understand what you trying to say

@Mai *******

I think that's only if they don't live here on a passport, right?

@Mai *******

Yes, not only there. I was surprised to find there are a ton of South Indians living in rural Kawkareik, just 50km from the Thai border with Mae Sot. Thais would stare at Indians living in a rural village in Thailand, it would be strange, but in Myanmar Indians are everywhere. Even in Tachilek there were quite a few Indians last time I was there. Also, quite a lot of Burmese are of mixed Burmese and Indian ethnicity. There's a lot of mixing.