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How do I report a bank transfer of 800,000 Baht for a Non-Immigrant O Visa to German and Thai authorities?
Non-Immigrant O VisaBank TransferForeign Exchange TransferGerman AuthoritiesThai AuthoritiesThai Bank Accounts
Jun 19, 2024
2 years ago
Deniz *********
ORIGINAL POSTERHello to everyone, for a non immigrant O Visa we should transfer 800 000 Baht from our own account onto our Thai account in Thailand. Right?
The question is, how does a declaration ( report) of this transfer to German authorities and Thai authorities work?
Who will report it ? we as the one who transfers or the Banks which makes this transfer or get the money in Thailand?
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and information 🙏😊🙏
The question is, how does a declaration ( report) of this transfer to German authorities and Thai authorities work?
Who will report it ? we as the one who transfers or the Banks which makes this transfer or get the money in Thailand?
Thank you in advance for your suggestions and information 🙏😊🙏
TLDR : Answer Summary
The process of reporting a bank transfer of 800,000 Baht for a Non-Immigrant O Visa involves understanding how foreign transfers are documented. When transferring funds from a German bank to a Thai bank, the transaction will typically be classified as a foreign exchange transfer (FET). The responsibility of reporting lies primarily with the banks involved, rather than the individual making the transfer. If the transfer is made through a third-party service, additional verification from the Thai bank may be required to confirm the nature of the transfer. Additionally, having an income certificate from the embassy could eliminate the need for the transfer altogether.
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Glenn *****
Do you already have a Thai bank to transfer into? You could ask that bank or your German bank. Otherwise do twi transfers.
John **********
If your embassy will provide an income certificate then you don't need to transfer anything to Thailand
Graham ******
@John *********
I think Germany does so the easy solution is get a Non-O in Germany to get a 90 day entry stamp then after arrival get an appointment at the German Embassy for the income affidavit in time for the 12 month extension.Stephan ***********
@Graham *****
Yep... you are right... the German Embassy/Consulates still provide these certificates. For the Embassy you need an appointment, the Consulates do it by "walk in".Reply to
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Stuart *********
Not really quite sure what you’re asking.
If you send your bank to bank transfer from your German bank to your Thai bank then it will show as a foreign transfer (FET). If you use a third party transfer service like Wise it may not show as that and you would need to request from your Thai bank evidence that it was an FET.
The authorities in Germany or Thailand have nothing to do with it.
If you send your bank to bank transfer from your German bank to your Thai bank then it will show as a foreign transfer (FET). If you use a third party transfer service like Wise it may not show as that and you would need to request from your Thai bank evidence that it was an FET.
The authorities in Germany or Thailand have nothing to do with it.
Deniz *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stuart ********
they surely have to do with that. There is a regulation ( Awv-reporting obligation) that all transfers over *****
Euro in a foreign country should be reported to the Bundesbank.*******************************************************************************
Stuart *********
@Deniz ********
Ok. I’ve no idea on German regulations regarding money transfers via bank to bank, but for most people you just set up a bank transfer from your overseas bank to your Thai bank and that’s it. The OP could do two or three transfers to keep them under the 12.5k euro limit if they like. It doesn’t have to be done in one transaction. It just has to be a balance of 800k Thai baht on application.
Stephan ***********
@Stuart ********
It's about money laundering... the same with cash... more than 10,000 Euro you have to declare to customs when you leave Germany, and also when you bring more into the country.Stuart *********
@Stephan **********
And is it any different if you do 10x 2k transfers?Deniz *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stuart ********
if they see there is a spitting then they sum all transactions of the month. It shouldn't be over *****
euro.You can split it in 2 months. It works. The problem is that a split in 2 months cost you valuable time within 3 months of your non immigrant o Visa .
Example: you enter Thailand in July with 3 months Visa. You go to immigration and get a residence certification then you go to bank and open and account. If you split it in two months you will do it in July and August. Then you will wait from x of August to X of October but your visa is untill September. You can only extend your visa for another 1 month in order to fulfill the requirement of having 800 000 baht for two months.( At some immigration office 3 months) .
Then imagine how difficult would it be for you.
Stuart *********
@Deniz ********
I understand the complexity of getting the 800k in to your Thai bank so you have it there for 2 months prior to your application for a year extension but I am not familiar with German banking laws regarding “large” transfers. Others have suggested it’s not a problem and it will be reported automatically by your bank.Stephan ***********
@Stuart ********
Actually it's not a problem at all to transfer higher amounts... your bank will report to the "Bundesbank" automatically, you don't have to do anything. And as long you are not "suspicious" to them nothing will happen, not even a delay in the transaction.Deniz *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stephan **********
a Bank reports its own transactions but not from individuals. The individuals are responsible for reporting their own transactions.Stephan ***********
@Deniz ********
Well... they did it for me... many times. When I started the transaction (online) there was a reminder about the report, another window popped up, I had to answer some questions like "where this money came from?", "what is the purpose of the transaction?", complete address data of the recipient and so on... nothing complicated. And that was it... worked with different banks in Germany. But anyway... just split your transaction... no report needed... problem solved...Deniz *********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stephan **********
and what you say is giving information about the origin of the money. This is different than the AWV- REPORTING OBLIGATION for moneys over *****
euro.*******************************************************************************
Stephan ***********
@Deniz ********
Listen... I just tell you my own experiences... nothing else. You don't have to take it too serious, okay? You are free to do whatever you want. But... why you not just split your transfers and avoid all these problems? There's no need to transfer the 800k in one step, nobody here care about that, not your bank, not the immigration. For them it's all about the seasoning, not about in how many portions you transfered the money.Deniz *********
ORIGINAL POSTERif they see there is a spitting then they sum all transactions of the month. It shouldn't be over
You can split it in 2 months. It works. The problem is that a split in 2 months cost you valuable time within 3 months of your non immigrant o Visa .
Example: you enter Thailand in July with 3 months Visa. You go to immigration and get a residence certification then you go to bank and open and account. If you split it in two months you will do it in July and August. Then you will wait from x of August to X of October but your visa is untill September. You can only extend your visa for another 1 month in order to fulfill the requirement of having 800 000 baht for two months.( At some immigration office 3 months) .
Then imagine how difficult would it be for you.
*****
euro.You can split it in 2 months. It works. The problem is that a split in 2 months cost you valuable time within 3 months of your non immigrant o Visa .
Example: you enter Thailand in July with 3 months Visa. You go to immigration and get a residence certification then you go to bank and open and account. If you split it in two months you will do it in July and August. Then you will wait from x of August to X of October but your visa is untill September. You can only extend your visa for another 1 month in order to fulfill the requirement of having 800 000 baht for two months.( At some immigration office 3 months) .
Then imagine how difficult would it be for you.
Deniz *********
ORIGINAL POSTERif they see there is a spitting then they sum all transactions of the month. It shouldn't be over
You can split it in 2 months. It works. The problem is that a split in 2 months cost you valuable time within 3 months of your non immigrant o Visa .
Example: you enter Thailand in July with 3 months Visa. You go to immigration and get a residence certification then you go to bank and open and account. If you split it in two months you will do it in July and August. Then you will wait from x of August to X of October but your visa is untill September. You can only extend your visa for another 1 month in order to fulfill the requirement of having 800 000 baht for two months.( At some immigration office 3 months) .
Then imagine how difficult would it be for you.
*****
euro.You can split it in 2 months. It works. The problem is that a split in 2 months cost you valuable time within 3 months of your non immigrant o Visa .
Example: you enter Thailand in July with 3 months Visa. You go to immigration and get a residence certification then you go to bank and open and account. If you split it in two months you will do it in July and August. Then you will wait from x of August to X of October but your visa is untill September. You can only extend your visa for another 1 month in order to fulfill the requirement of having 800 000 baht for two months.( At some immigration office 3 months) .
Then imagine how difficult would it be for you.
Stephan ***********
@Stuart ********
Yep... it's "per transaction", so splitting is the way to go... ;-)Reply to
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John ********
@Deniz ********
nothing to do with thai immigrationReply to
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