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What legal options are available for my husband's uncle with dementia living in Thailand?

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Hi all, slightly niche advice needed here.

My Husbands uncle is 84 and has been in Thailand for over 20 years. We have had very limited contact with him over the years and very little information on his living arrangements.

We were contacted by what we thought was his wife saying he has dementia and he needs to come back to the UK. It's been mentioned because of this his retirement visa won't be extended?

Would anyone have any advice on this? We have no idea of any Thai legalities, visas ect or if he has any way to Fund any care over there or in the UK. All I know is we are unable to financially support him at all.EDIT It is not that we don't care, we barely know this man, I believe he would rather stay in Thailand, why go back to a village in the UK with no living relatives on your own? If we could afford to bring him back and thats what he wanted, we would.
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The post discusses the challenges faced by an expat's family dealing with an elderly uncle in Thailand who has dementia and is uncertain about his visa status and care options. They express concern over his living arrangements, potential financial needs, and the implications of returning him to the UK. Various community comments suggest that Thailand has affordable care facilities and recommend contacting the British embassy for assistance, while also cautioning against potential financial exploitation. Discussions highlight the importance of legal authority over the uncle's affairs, especially regarding his finances and visa renewals.
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Ralphy *****
Ralphy *****
He can extend his retirement visa, nothing to do with his health
Joe **********
Joe **********
📜This is a tough situation, and you’re right to pause before making decisions—there are legal, immigration, and care issues all mixed together. Here’s how to think about it clearly.

🇹🇭 1. Thai Retirement Visa & Dementia

The Thai retirement visa (Non-Immigrant “O-A” or “O”) has strict requirements:

* Proof of funds (usually 800,000 THB in a Thai bank or monthly income)

* Ability to manage personal affairs (implicitly expected)

If your husband’s uncle now has dementia, problems can arise:

* He may fail to meet financial or reporting requirements

* Immigration may refuse renewal if paperwork isn’t properly maintained

* If no one is legally managing his finances, renewal becomes difficult

👉 In practice, many elderly expats stay if:

* A spouse or caregiver handles finances and reporting

* Funds are still available in his account

So dementia alone doesn’t automatically cancel the visa—but lack of management does.

⚖️ 2. Legal Authority (Very Important)

Right now, the biggest unknown is:�Who is legally allowed to make decisions for him?

In Thailand:

* A spouse is not automatically granted full legal control

* Without power of attorney or court-appointed guardianship, decisions can be limited

If he lacks capacity, someone may need:

* Thai court-appointed guardian (similar to UK deputyship)

Without this, even things like:

* Accessing his bank account

* Renewing visa

* Arranging care

…can become very complicated.

🏥 3. Care Options in Thailand

Thailand actually has a well-developed elder care sector, often more affordable than the UK.

Typical options:

* Private caregivers at home

* Assisted living / nursing homes

* Dementia-specific care facilities

*

👉 Key point:�If he has funds, staying in Thailand with care is often more realistic and comfortable than relocating at 84 with dementia.

🇬🇧 4. Returning to the UK

This is much harder than it sounds.

Issues to consider:

* NHS access depends on ordinary residence status

* After 20+ years abroad, he may not automatically qualify

* No close family = risk of social isolation

* Dementia patients struggle with relocation → can worsen condition

You’d also need:

* Someone to receive and support him in the UK

* Likely involvement of NHS and local social services

👉 If no family support exists, UK authorities may still help—but it’s not immediate or simple.

🚩 5. Red Flags You Should Clarify

Before doing anything, verify:

* Is this “wife” legally married to him?

* Does she control his finances?

* What is his current visa type and expiry?

* Does he have savings or pension income?

* Has any doctor formally diagnosed dementia?

⚠️ Be cautious: situations like this can sometimes involve financial pressure or misunderstanding.
Jo ****
Jo ****
I have a friend here who's father was put into a care home a few years ago. At that time l think it was £460. per month.
Murray ********
Murray ********
I am not an expert however since he has lived in Thailand for 20+ years he would have a bank account and possibly one in the UK where pension payments are deposited. He may or may not have a co-signer (wife/caregiver) on his Thai account and the bank would know if they would be willing to cooperate with you. The old saying follow the money. Most likely funds are still being deposited to an account in his name that he has been living off. As long as he physically stays in Thailand his visa should be fine as long as he follows immigration reporting requirements.
Paul ***********
Paul ***********
Recommend you contact the UK embassy in Thailand. They can visit him, assess his condition, maybe they will be able check his finances and help to have cared for somewhere.
Junior *******
Junior *******
Where does he live ? If he isn’t to far Me and my wife will help him to make sure he is eating and drinking enough water .
Sylvia ********
Sylvia ********
I live in Chonburi, if you find out his address maybe nearby I can assist or at least visit, British embassy should be able to locate him as immigration have his whereabouts listed
Sarah **********
Sarah **********
Maybe post this in the expat group saying where he currently lives and maybe someone know of an agent that could go visit and check out what the situation is.
Daniel ***************
Daniel ***************
Don't do anything, don't respond to any requests for assistance. It's none of your business.
Andy **********
Andy **********
I know of a situation where the English guy got sick in retirement and his wife had stolen all his money including the Bt800k he kept parked for his visa renewal so she killed him.

She now gets half his pension and the world turns but as sure as day follows night, she killed him.
Ant *******
Ant *******
Interesting problem and I'm sure its not uncommon.

He's probably run out of money or the Thais have sucked everything out of him.

Let it run its course . Without a visa the Thais will deport him back to the UK where the state will need to look after him.

I will take cancer, heart disease etc over dementia any day. With the others you know you are sick but dementia is happy every day. Tell the family to let his visa expire then take him to immigration and let them deal with him. He will be home in a few days.
Paddy *****
Paddy *****
Ant Cliff sounded cruel but it may be the best way if Thai family couldn’t help him for any reason.
Ant *******
Ant *******
Paddy Kan Apologies. Not intended to be cruel but reading between the lines they really don't know him or want the stress and may not have the money to mount a rescue.

One thing and again if this story is fact or fiction, he has no idea anything is wrong. Its a nasty illness.

Thais won't want him here so 2 birds with 1 stone ... probably send UK cost of flight.

Practical is not always the kindest but normally effective.
Tom ********
Tom ********
There are facilities in Thailand, most notably in Chiang Mai, for caring for foreigners with dementia.
Eileen ***********
Eileen ***********
Tom DeWitt cheap too
Alan **********
Alan **********
Have never seen a post with SO many nicknames used.

I wonder why ??? (Kidding, I don't wonder at all 🤣)
Mark *******
Mark *******
He has probably supported them for the last 20 years and now his money has gone.

Unfortunately this happens a lot .

If you have no money to support him he will have to stay.

It can be a very sad end 🙏🏻
Rachel ********
Rachel ********
Mark Jones

His money is monthy pension- doesn't run out.
Jo ****
Jo ****
If he is an ex service man the British legion might help.
John ********
John ********
I’ll probably get hammered for this but

I wouldn’t get involved with anyone with dementia who I didn’t love with all of my heart. It’s not your responsibility. Assuming you want to just help him get home and into adult social services when he lands. That’s not going to be easy.

If you do want to help him do this I’d advise against taking him to your home. Ever. And dont expect any loans to be paid back. So don’t use your own money.

Contact his wife again maybe for starters. How was he funding his retirement? Get a photo of his passport and visa stamp. Try and dig about the financials.
Ursula *********
Ursula *********
John Wenman and ask very firmly to talk to him.
Adventuro**********
Adventuro**********
An elderly man, with dementia, was placed in a nursing home here in Thailand. Somewhere in the Pattaya, Chonburi area. Apparently, it was paid for out of his UK pension. The Thai receptionist at our condo complex, went far out of her way, to do this for him, while consulting with his family, back in the UK. Apparently, this option is available in the Pattaya area.
Alan *********
Alan *********
AdventurousTiger697

It's called Homerly. Just north of Pattaya
Pabo *********
Pabo *********
If he hasn’t been in contact with his niece or nephew in 30 years, why should they be burdened with him now
Ellis ******************************
Ellis ******************************
Sounds like he needs support protecting his financial position and any assets.. don’t take his wife’s word on that one.. nor any friends, Thai lawyers, or Thais in any bureaucratic position whatsoever neither!

The sooner your Husband’s Uncle is out of there and back in the UK, the sooner his wife and her associates can start enjoying his money!
Chris **********
Chris **********
Probably better for him to return to the UK. His pension will jump to the current level and a care home will claim it for his care.
John *********
John *********
Just go get him home book him a flight home
Allan **************
Allan **************
So if he's been here 20 plus years his pension is probably very small amount as apparently the UK pension if you're living in Thailand doesn't increase 🤔. Jast by what some people say on FB so he may have very little money to live on .
Sylvia ********
Sylvia ********
I am involved with nursing carehome in Thailand and procedures are complicated as obviously need funds. British Embassy can possibly locate him and then get a doctor report. That would be a start, once you know if he can travel back alone you could make enquiries for care in UK. If Thai family won't or cant manage him this needs investigating. If you know location we can maybe find expat neighbours or friends to assist with information?
Dragan **********
Dragan **********
Contact authorities.

Not Facebook people .
Roger ********
Roger ********
The notion of dementia (my mother suffered from it) scares the shite out of me.
Thomas ********
Thomas ********
Roger Lorton That is quite possibly the motivation for some who join the 'Pattaya flyers club' when they realise they are at the start of that decline. Far less complicated than a trip to Switzerland!
Ant *******
Ant *******
Roger Lorton Me too. Rather have any other medical issue.
Stephen ******
Stephen ******
Don't he have a English state pension in Thailand
John **********
John **********
@Stephen *****
no such thing as an English state pension, perhaps you mean a UK state pension? In which case it will have been frozen at the level it was when either he first received it if he was in Thailand prior to that or the date he moved to Thailand otherwise. It's probably a pittance
Brenda *********
Brenda *********
I heard Thailand has good nursing homes.
Nick *******
Nick *******
Brenda Hegwood and where would he get the money to afford that? Expensive here.
Alan *********
Alan *********
Thailand has very good facilities for the old, infirm and dementia patients, but at a cost. However, compared to charges in the UK they are cheaper and the care is better. If your uncle's been out there he has/had money. The answer lies in how much money he has left. He would want to stay out there, I would. Your problem is likely to be the person who contacted you wants the money but not your uncle.
Motivated**********
Motivated**********
OP
Alan Balding Is there any support for the elderly if he has no funds?
Rok ********
Rok ********
MotivatedLychee4996 The retirement visa is renewed annually and provides no residency rights. Once you no longer fulfil the criteria the visa is no longer renewed and you are staying in Thailand illegally. There is absolutely no social safety net for non-Thais. Everything must be self funded.
Ivan *********
Ivan *********
Alan Balding I think the reality is a lot of Thai people have extended Family living arrangements ?I am married to a Thai lady and have seen that Grandparents often live in an annex of the Main house .I have also noticed that Older people are treated with great respect and reverence- We could learn a lot of good things from Thai society ?
Rok ********
Rok ********
Alan Balding … from the post one can gather there is no £2500 per month and no 800,000 deposit for the visa. I agree Thailand is a great country for self funded old age health and social care.
Alan *********
Alan *********
Rok Ziherl

There many old folks homes in Thailand. Yes you have to pay but then they take of everything, including visa. One to one care, in a residential setting starts about £2,500 a month. Quality care far exceeding the UK.
Rachel *****
Rachel *****
Very sad
Kevin ************
Kevin ************
Thai people can be quite ruthless once the Golden Goose stops laying.
Vibrant*******
Vibrant*******
Oh, stop. It sounds like they may not have the resources to care for him properly. It can cost a bomb.
Dave *******
Dave *******
so basically it sounds like he has no money so his thai family dont want him nor does his uk family .........but i bet if he had money in the bank they would be fighting over him ......his family in the uk should not be bothered about money .......i can understand in thailand as they just fleece men .........
Jared **********
Jared **********
If he had money he wouldn’t be in that position, people cannot pull money out of thin air to take care of what is effectively a stranger
Motivated**********
Motivated**********
OP
Dave Lucas Thats rather unfair. He has a nephew and neice and thats it, neither has seen him for over 30 years and he no longer recognises them from pictures.. Neither can afford to bring him home, even if we did we cannot afford to care for him. It's easy to say you shouldn't care about money- thats if you have any!
Mark *********
Mark *********
MotivatedLychee4996 if all else fails he can fly home and go to the local authority. They will house him and provide care so long as he has sufficient social security record. If his dementia is bad then someone will need to help him. Possibly there are some dementia charities that will help you to get him established.
James **********
James **********
Be careful of scammers asking for money.
Jo ****
Jo ****
What area in thailand does he reside?
Motivated**********
Motivated**********
OP
Jo Jo Pattaya

Chonburi
Taupe_A*******
Taupe_A*******
MotivatedLychee4996 Chonburi city, or somewhere in Chonburi province? Chonburi province is huge.
Motivated**********
Motivated**********
OP
Taupe_Arugula_ No idea!
Sylvia ********
Sylvia ********
Jo Jo exactly what I was going to ask. We have beautiful nursing carehomes in tourist areas, very cheap compared to UK private homes, but only cheap if he still has funds. UK pension is frozen when one lives here so possibly on a pension granted 20 years back and therefore pretty worthless
Lee ***********
Lee ***********
Sylvia Corley only state pension that is!
Annie ***********
Annie ***********
contact the embassy
Taki****
Taki****
Annie Bruggeman sorry the embassy will be no help in this situation. We had a case similar in Hua Hin, the resolution was the local Expat community raising the funds to get the patient back to UK and pay for care in the UK for 6 months after which time he qualified for local authority care.
Annie ***********
Annie ***********
Takiep74 I also live in Hua Hin, and last year we received support from the Canadian embassy for a specific case. They were very helpful. I thought the British embassy offered this kind of assistance in specific situations.
FarangJ********
FarangJ********
He's better off dying here in Thailand.
Ant *******
Ant *******
FarangJaiDee123 He can live for yrs with dementia. None of us want it.
Alan *********
Alan *********
FarangJaiDee123

I am currently looking at that for myself now. I worked out there 20 years ago. Love the place.
Kate *******
Kate *******
FarangJaiDee123 sadly true, he’d probably be happier with that outcome.
Steve ******
Steve ******
FarangJaiDee123 bluntly, that's probably the truth.
Damo ******
Damo ******
Have you tried to contact him ?
TrustworthyA************
TrustworthyA************
All I cab say is if he has the funds to return he needs to book himself into a hotel then go to the local hospital and get examined if diagnosed he then becomes a vulnerable person and will receive full government funds
John **********
John **********
First step would be contacting the British Embassy in Bangkok and see what they say. No idea if they will do anything but it seems the right place to start
Jack *********
Jack *********
@John *********
is that the U.K Embassy?
John **********
John **********
@Jack ********
yeah, they refer to themselves as the British Embassy
Vibrant*******
Vibrant*******
Bloody waste of time.
Taki****
Taki****
@John *********
the embassy will be no help in this situation. He needs either care by the family here or funds raised to get him back to UK
John **********
John **********
Takiep74 they should at least be able to point them in the right direction as to how to go forward. I agree they probably won't help, as in intervene, but it sounds like the family in the UK don't even know where to start.
LoyalTu*******
LoyalTu*******
If you can please come fetch him
Stacey ***********
Stacey ***********
LoyalTulip6634 if he has family in Thailand surely they will want to care for him?
Ken *****
Ken *****
Stacey McGinness no money.

That dripping tap , gets turned off.

@ move on.??
Vibrant*******
Vibrant*******
They may not have the resources.
Stacey ***********
Stacey ***********
LoyalTulip6634 very sad.
LoyalTu*******
LoyalTu*******
VibrantElk6015 he was the money source
Stacey ***********
Stacey ***********
VibrantElk6015 how would he have survived before his illness?
Deane ********
Deane ********
Fly here, take him home !
Christopher ******
Christopher ******
Deane Fisher they said they have zero funds to help him
Roger **********
Roger **********
Honestly, I think it is the best thing to do - get on a plane and come to Thailand or even use a Law Firm to find out for you. In any case, you must find out the situation yourself and the decide how to handle it, in fron of him. He may have dementia - OK, but to what extent is the dementia - it can go from forgetting things to not getting out of bed everyday (yes I saw mther go through this Sydney). It may or may not be a scam, who knows? As some people responding to this have said, there are minimal rights to foreigners in this situation unless paid through the nose for it.
Deane ********
Deane ********
Christopher Bull I think they could scrape enough money between the family, for a couple of flights 🤦‍♂️
Motivated**********
Motivated**********
OP
Deane Fisher I can't afford fuel to the airport 🤣. What happens when we get him here, where is he living?
CoolBun*******
CoolBun*******
Deane sounds like they don’t want to
Melissa *******
Melissa *******
You need to contact the consulate there and the consulate where you are and get them to talk.
Vibrant*******
Vibrant*******
Nope.
Taki****
Taki****
Melissa Petek wrong nothing to do with consulates. Should be a British Embassy matter but they no longer offer any help in cases such as this. It is up to friends/family to sort it out.
Paul ********
Paul ********
Melissa Petek How is it a job for a consulate to resolve. It is a private matter. Clearly his present concubine does not want to offer care. His financial circumstances need to be teased out. The embassy will repatriate a destitute citizen but these funds must be paid back to the State.

It is the western way not to help out a close relative (uncle).
Alan **********
Alan **********
Paul Davies Is it not the job of any country's embassy/consulate to help out their citizens in a FOREIGN country ?.

If not, what IS their job ? To give their ambassadors a place to sleep ?
Jennifer ********
Jennifer ********
Alan Rothwell Honestly, citizens services are low on the priority list. Embassies are for creating a connection between the two govts, business-wise or political. Those are the top priorities. Many countries give their citizens very little help of the personal kind, only the regular passport stuff, visas for the people of the host country, dealing w/citizens deaths etc. They're really not there for our personal or financial problems.
Melissa *******
Melissa *******
Paul Davies yes it’s very western to not help. They are not filial like other countries.

If the man is truely unwell, I would assume that it needs to be verified.

The partner may have the funds to send him back. It does seem as if the partner is not willing to look after him.

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