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What is the easiest visa route to convert to a retirement visa after a short overstay in Thailand?

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Nigel *********

asked Sep 22, 2022

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Hi advisors, I think I've given myself a problem, my last visa was short 2 days of my stay in Thailand, so I paid the 2 days overstay. I believe I've just read from the pinned posts I can't get a retirement visa from an o if I have an overstay stamp. I'm in Uk planning to return in November, can any one suggest the best or easiest  entry/ visa route for me to convert to eventually apply for a retirement visa. ( New passport )? All suggestions welcome, Thanks.

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The user is worried about their eligibility for a retirement visa after a short overstay in Thailand. They ask for advice on the best visa route while in the UK, aiming to convert to a retirement visa when returning to Thailand in November. Comments suggest that while you cannot apply for an in-country visa with an ongoing overstay, having an overstay stamp from a previous entry allows you to apply for a Non-O visa upon return, provided you meet certain conditions.

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Ellie *******

Summarised options for you to get a retirement visa/extension in Thailand.

4 years ago

Nigel *********

Thankyou

@Ellie ******

,please would you know if I can convert to a retirement visa from a visa on arrival in Thailand, or do I need to apply for a 60 day tourist visa in the uk..

4 years ago

Ellie *******

@Nigel ********

, you can apply for in-country Non-O when you enter on visa-exempt (not visa on arrival) for 30 days (normally. 45 days after 1 Oct). You have to apply for one when you still have at least 15 days or more in most provinces (or 21 days in some provinces). So it's up to you if 14 days (+ 30 days tourism extension in case) or less is enough for you to be prepared for an in-country visa application.

This is the GENERAL requirements sheet for in-country Non-O visa based on being over 50.

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/9.FOR-RETIREMENT-PURPOSES-50-YEARS-OLD-NON-O.pdf

4 years ago

Nigel *********

@Ellie ******

Massive thanks, I get such a stress on with the land of smiles nonsense and find it difficult to get clear answers online, chalk up another satisfied customer 😀 and thanks to Todd too..

4 years ago

Robert *******

Get the retirement visa before you make your way into Thailand as that gives you 90 days of stay and relaxed time to sort out in 30 days the deposit for a 1 year Extension of Stay, rather than first running around to get a visa.

4 years ago

Tod *********

I think you might be mis-remembering what that actually meant.

You can't apply for an in country 90 day Non-Immigrant type visa while ON overstay.

You can have an overstay stamp from a previous entry to thailand as long as your current entry you're NOT overstaying

So come in Nov,

get the 800K baht transferred in to a thai bank account in your name,

go apply for a 90 day Non-O visa based on being over 50 (retirement) for 2000baht,

wait the under review period

go back on that date, get the Non-O and new 90 day stamp inked in to your passport

then when you have 30 days or less left on that 90 day stamp apply for the year extension for 1900baht

4 years ago

Nigel *********

Hi Tod, final question please, what is my best/ easiest visa for entry into Thailand, can I get visa on arrival, or a tourist visa ? Btw I have seasoned funds in Krungsi.

4 years ago

Eze ********

@Tod ********

You may see more people with similar questions about overstaying or providing incorrect replies about the CURRENT consequences for those who have overstayed because some of the information documents for certain visas on the MFA website say,

"IF YOU HAVE OVERSTAYED, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR THIS TYPE OF VISA."

I believe that this poorly worded sentence is what is generating the confusion.

4 years ago

Tod *********

that would appear to be what people are reading, and I agree it's piss poorly written

4 years ago

Nigel *********

Nice one

@Tod ********

, big relief, final question please, what is my best/ easiest visa for entry into Thailand, can I get visa on arrival, or a tourist visa ? Btw I have seasoned funds in Krungsee.

4 years ago

Tod *********

@Nigel ********

you can't get a visa on arrival 😕and you don't need to buy a tourist visa from the consulate before you come here

You're a brit, just fly in and get stamped in free on what's called a "visa exempt entry" <- they are currently 30 days but starting Oct 1st until Mar 31st they go to 45 days, and you can get one 30 day extension at the immigration office for 1900baht too.

That gives you plenty of time to get a bank account opened, transfer in the 800K baht, and go apply for the 90 day Non-O visa at the immigration office where you stay for 2000baht

4 years ago