What are the surprising aspects of Thailand's immigration rules for expats?

Dec 18, 2019
5 years ago
Steven ***************
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Three things that astound me about the immigration rules here...😑

1. A female spouse of a Thai male doesnt require 400k or 40k monthly income to obtain a non O spouse visa. Zero funds required.

2. Every Thai consulate seems to have it's own set of requirements for same visas.

3. Over 50s on any type of visa/extension, other than non OA ,dont require health insurance to get it.
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The post outlines three surprising aspects of Thai immigration rules: 1) Female spouses of Thai males do not need to meet financial requirements for a NON-O visa; 2) Each Thai consulate has different requirements; 3) Individuals over 50 on various visas are not required to have health insurance. The comments reflect on cultural norms, the variability in visa processes, and personal experiences with the immigration system.
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Larry ******
You’re first mistake is trying to UNDERSTAND that is something you cannot do here
Wayne ********
at this stage Thai Elite but would be cheaper take insurance cover as a 5 yr visa doesn’t matter your age is 500,000 thb
A-I-*****
What happened? You grew up thinking life was fair and we are all created equal? 🤣
Lynda ***********
Well it's a sad state of affairs when you can provide proof of 800 k in a Thai bank account, police clearance, medical certificate, make 2 trips to Vientiane, Laos and still get refused a retirement visa. Short of a blood sample I have no idea what more to do, other than move on. Which I don't want to do because I live Thailand and her people.
Edward *******
@Lynda **********
I’ve never heard of someone getting denied a retirement visa for being in Thailand too long. Makes no sense. In any case, you could just get an elite visa for 5 years and try a retirement visa again when that visa expires. All hope isn’t lost
Ivan ************
Why were you denied
@Ly***
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Nick *******
Lynda Bernhardt Vietnam 🇻🇳 appears to be the place to be
Phil *******
1. Thailand is a male dominance society. Like most... Woman emancipation still has a long way to go.

2. Visa is an immigration issue. Handled by embassy staff who don't report to immigration. That leaves them the power to decide what they want. The ultimate power is actually with the IO at the airport who can turn you even you have a visa.

3. Many expect that requirements for Non-OA visa will be extended soon to other visas. Non-O in particular.
Charles ****************
#1.......You'll find the same thing in Japan.

Xenophobic behavior here is quite similar there as well.
Wayne ********
Only 3??
Federico **********
If a female foreigner marries a Thai man, it is understood the man will "take care" of her. We all know "take care" in Thailand means money/provide. The idea behind it is: Men have to "take care" of women. Call it sexist, or whatever.

I also don't see women paying sin-sod to get married, and this is Thai or foreigner alike. So its not something they made up for foreigners, its a general concept applied. [I dont agree w it... just explaining where it might come from]

Regarding the Health Insurance which "other visas" are we talking about? If he/she is working on a NonB the company probably provides health insurance. If not, at least they pay taxes on their salary so they have the ประกันสังคม (prakan-sangkom)

If they are on an Elite, etc etc and they have money... well... they probably have private health insurance.

If they are on a tourist/ED etc etc... they wont be here for long (not with the new rules).

So the only scenario i can see that is risky for the government (risky = using a hospital and not having the means to pay the bill) is someone who is over 50, staying for a long time, and with little income (not even 2k dollars a month). Hence the requirement.
David ****************
@Steven **************
I think the assumption is that working here means banking here. Even if that isn't always true, it probably is true in many cases. OA visa, as I understand it, uses banked funds in home country. It would be relatively easy for an expat using that (the first year anyway) to not even have a Thai bank and just do ATM withdrawls for cash or to keep small amouts of money in Thailand at any given time. I'd imagine that OA extensions done inside the country still needed proof of local funding, so the logic starts to fall apart there if that is the case, but perhaps that just wasn't considered.
Steven ***************
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Federico Wechsler . Anything else?

Sin sod is a traditional custom. Not a law.

And working here has no guarantee of health insurance provided by employer that meets same level for visa requirement.
Steve **********
TFT
John *********
If a woman marries a Thai man she deserves a reward. There is not a lot of fidelity among them. Her Visa is good for the duration of the marriage.

The other points, well this is Thailand.
Steve *******
Trying to apply logic in the LOS will head f#@k you lol
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