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What are the residency requirements for a three-month NON-O retiree visa in Thailand?
Question about residency requirements for a NON-O three-month retiree visa
Hello. I need help from experts who have already encountered this...
I am trying to get a three month NON-O retriment visa. The migration service has given me a list of requirements.
There are the following requirements for residency in Thailand.
For rent house or condo:
Contract/Rental agreement
Letter from Condo
Copy of landlord's ID(Identification) card
Copy of landlord's household registration
Copy of household registration that the room you rent
MAP
Question for people who have already submitted this type of document.
Is it necessary to submit this entire list to the migration service?
Logically speaking, just a contract should be enough - but what is it like in reality?
Is a contract for the entire three-month period necessary?
If I were to conclude a condo rental agreement through an intermediary - that is, with a real estate agency: would I still need to provide this entire list of documents?
Why is there no hotel option on the list? Can't I stay at a hotel?
I could ask all these questions at the information department of the emigration service, but there is simply no time for that, because Monday is the last day when I can submit an application for a NON-O three-month visa. I kindly ask people who have actually encountered this situation to respond, because there is simply no time for discussion.
Thank you all in advance for your answers...
Hello. I need help from experts who have already encountered this...
I am trying to get a three month NON-O retriment visa. The migration service has given me a list of requirements.
There are the following requirements for residency in Thailand.
For rent house or condo:
Contract/Rental agreement
Letter from Condo
Copy of landlord's ID(Identification) card
Copy of landlord's household registration
Copy of household registration that the room you rent
MAP
Question for people who have already submitted this type of document.
Is it necessary to submit this entire list to the migration service?
Logically speaking, just a contract should be enough - but what is it like in reality?
Is a contract for the entire three-month period necessary?
If I were to conclude a condo rental agreement through an intermediary - that is, with a real estate agency: would I still need to provide this entire list of documents?
Why is there no hotel option on the list? Can't I stay at a hotel?
I could ask all these questions at the information department of the emigration service, but there is simply no time for that, because Monday is the last day when I can submit an application for a NON-O three-month visa. I kindly ask people who have actually encountered this situation to respond, because there is simply no time for discussion.
Thank you all in advance for your answers...
Answer summary
The post discusses the complexities involved in obtaining a three-month NON-O retirement visa in Thailand, particularly the accommodation documentation required by immigration services. The user seeks clarification on whether a complete list of documents including a rental contract, landlord's ID, and household registration is necessary. Commenters share their experiences and insights, noting the possibility of using a hotel as accommodation instead, the importance of having a Thai bank account, and the need for specific residency documents when applying from within Thailand. Overall, there's a consensus that the requirements can vary significantly and it's often easier to apply for a visa from outside of Thailand.
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Zhanna ************
Just get a tourist visa for 3 months and that's it.
Daniel **********
Pkoi faire un Visa de retraite si ce n'est que pour 3 mois ????? un Visa Touriste de 2 Mois + une extension de 30 jours ainsi rien a montrer Lol.....!!
Kwan ******
I used to help a friend submitting docs to immigration of Bangkok.
The answer is a big YES you have to submit as per requested.
And in some inquiry, immigration officer might ask your landlord to provide a copy of property act in supplement of condominium's house registration book.
The answer is a big YES you have to submit as per requested.
And in some inquiry, immigration officer might ask your landlord to provide a copy of property act in supplement of condominium's house registration book.
David *********
Are you looking to get a 3 month non-o visa from your country outside of Thailand? Then you are looking at the wrong list. Check your Thai consulate or embassy that has jurisdiction from where you are applying from for the list of requirements you will need when applying via the that e-visa system.
Or, are you asking about requirements for the 1 year extension of stay based on retirement when you do when you are already in Thailand and you have time to set up a bank account and transfer funds into that bank account so they are properly seasoned? If yes, the immigration office with jurisdiction for where you are living can provide you with the list of documents you will need and yes that list will
Include a lease.
Or, are you asking about requirements for the 1 year extension of stay based on retirement when you do when you are already in Thailand and you have time to set up a bank account and transfer funds into that bank account so they are properly seasoned? If yes, the immigration office with jurisdiction for where you are living can provide you with the list of documents you will need and yes that list will
Include a lease.
Brian *********
OP, you have me confused. Are you doing a 3-month visa or a 12-month retirement? There is no 3-month retirement. If you are staying 3 months it is just a Non O visa. If you are doing the 12-month, very few people stay in hotels for a year. Yes everything they asked for is required
Andy ********
Good morning, I have come to this post late but read all comments.
You have posted the requirements of Chonburi Immigration.
Do you meet all these requirements? Is it just the residency requirements you are struggling with?
You have posted the requirements of Chonburi Immigration.
Do you meet all these requirements? Is it just the residency requirements you are struggling with?
Ramūnas ********
OPAndy Oswald
Precisely because of the lack of time, the biggest problem is accommodation
Precisely because of the lack of time, the biggest problem is accommodation
Andy ********
Ramūnas Rezgis if yoyi are currently staying in a hotel have a word with the manager and see what they can do for you. They will of filled a TM30 when yoyi checked in. Ask him/her if thay can refile the TM30 and maybe issue a letter to immigration saying you are a long term resident.
Another option could be that the manager has copies of the hotel owners I'd card and Tabian Bahn.
You could also make a 3 month booking online at the hotel. Obviously with the option to cancel.
At a minimum ask for a copy of your TM30. This MAY be enough.
The more paperwork the better.
It is surprising how fat a cheery attitude can get you in Thailand. That is at both immigration and with your. Hotel manager.
Another option could be that the manager has copies of the hotel owners I'd card and Tabian Bahn.
You could also make a 3 month booking online at the hotel. Obviously with the option to cancel.
At a minimum ask for a copy of your TM30. This MAY be enough.
The more paperwork the better.
It is surprising how fat a cheery attitude can get you in Thailand. That is at both immigration and with your. Hotel manager.
Ronn *********
If this is the full list you would be in Thai immigration heaven.
Kenneth *********
There are several agents you can use that can take care of this easily. None of what they are requiring is problematic in acquiring and submitting. In Pattaya there's a company called TVS +66 84-362-0314
Phillip ******
you need a Lease, a copy of the owners House Book, their ID card and a map. use Google maps to show your house/condo and the immigration office all on the same map. Print 3 copies of everything, they need 2 you keep 1 spare.
Nongnuch ********
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@John *********
, please close the comment function. This guy has until now NOT told us if he already has a Thai bank account with the required funds sitting in it. We have already asked him many times, but he won't tellRamūnas ********
OPNongnuch Kamdee
read the topic title! what did I ask about in general!? do you see anywhere that I asked about finances, about bank accounts, about money?! You are polluting this topic all the time and the admins should be asked to block you... The question was only about accommodation requirements! And in general I try never to ask anything on the Internet and I did it only because of lack of time, because Monday is the last day to submit documents, and migration is closed on weekends, so there is no other way to get at least some additional information..
read the topic title! what did I ask about in general!? do you see anywhere that I asked about finances, about bank accounts, about money?! You are polluting this topic all the time and the admins should be asked to block you... The question was only about accommodation requirements! And in general I try never to ask anything on the Internet and I did it only because of lack of time, because Monday is the last day to submit documents, and migration is closed on weekends, so there is no other way to get at least some additional information..
Ramūnas ********
OPNongnuch Kamdee
I clearly wrote that I do not have an account in a Thai bank! But to get this type of visa, a Thai bank account is not necessary. I just have to provide evidence that I have funds in a foreign bank! And the topic question was not about that at all! As for the financial requirements, everything was clear to me from the beginning.
I clearly wrote that I do not have an account in a Thai bank! But to get this type of visa, a Thai bank account is not necessary. I just have to provide evidence that I have funds in a foreign bank! And the topic question was not about that at all! As for the financial requirements, everything was clear to me from the beginning.
John **********
@Ramūnas *******
to get that visa inside Thailand you need funds in a Thai bank, immigration will not accept funds in a foreign bank. If you apply for the Non-O outside Thailand you can use funds in a bank anywhereNongnuch ********
Ramūnas Rezgis OH really??? You are WRONG. You will soon find out. If you apply for the 90-days visa OUTSIDE of Thailand, you need to prove money on your home bank account. But if you apply for the 90-days visa INSIDE Thailand, you need money in your Thai bank account. I can only WARN you: DO NOT GO INTO OVERSTAY, because you will not get processed by Immigration without the funds already sitting in a Thai bank account. In this case you MUST leave Thailand before the date in your entry stamp that is in blue ink, because this is the expiry date of your current stay permit.
Nongnuch ********
Ramūnas Rezgis that's what you intend to do, and THIS is what you need. This is taken from the original .pdf list from the main Immigration Office in Bangkok. By tomorrow at the Immigration office, you will be asked for the financial proof: "Please show us your Thai bankbook with 800,000 THB in it. And please show us a proof that the deposit came from abroad" . . " Or show us the income affidavit from your embassy" . . . . Look at the first sentence: has to be a Thai bank
Nongnuch ********
Ramūnas Rezgis many others have told you the same. You just ignored it. Well, by tomorrow you will find out. You will have to exit Thailand before you go into overstay. Mariane has told you, one day ago, as well as many others: "Marianne Holmen: Unless you have a bank account in Thailand already, you will need to leave and apply from a different country instead.
You can't apply in-country without a bank account unless you go through an agent that will do everything for you.
And that is expensive." . . . . you are welcome to find out
You can't apply in-country without a bank account unless you go through an agent that will do everything for you.
And that is expensive." . . . . you are welcome to find out
Nongnuch ********
Ramūnas Rezgis They even HIGHLIGHTED IT for you IN YELLOW and it clearly says it EITHER requires a bank account with 800,000 THB already sitting in it, OR an income affidavit from your embassy in Bangkok over monthly 65,000 THB income. And since the next sentence says that you must prove that the deposit came from abroad into Thailand, the deposit clearly has to sit in a THAI bank account in your sole name
Ramūnas ********
OPNongnuch Kamdee Where do you see the requirement to have a Thai bank account here?
Ramūnas ********
OPNongnuch Kamdee
So you think the migration information service lied to me?
So you think the migration information service lied to me?
Angelo ***********
The hotel option is on another sheet of paper. This sheet has a yellow marked headline: "For rent house or Condo" ...
Garry ******
Why bot just use an agency that will deal with everything for you
Tc *********
First years application is a lot more extensive - the more info you have , the easier and quicker it is to get ur retirement visa . Its a headache but it does get easier . For the first year id suggest using an agent , yes there is a cost but it overcomes the stress factor with all the unknowns . Next year you will be able to do it yourself. Taking photos and drawing a map of ur location is part of it . As to hotels , you have to have a years contract at the location ur staying at and that follows up with the TM30 90 reporting . You can move at the expense of loosing your deposit ( im sure many of us have done so including me)once you find a better preferred home. This is a week out of a year , the other 51 weeks will be stress free.
Matthew *****
I am not sure now but its important to hand draw the map, they rejected the google map one. It must be hand drawn
Keith *******
Matthew Lee Yes, the map requirement is quaint. I tried a google map with precise GPS coordinates of my house on it. They rejected it in favor of a hand-drawn map that looked like it was done by a 5-year old :)
Wolfgang ********
Attention: you must click "retirement for foreigners aged 50 years or older (who wish ...".
When you click "long stay (O-A) for foreigners aged 50 years or older ...." Then you must have many more documents.
When you click "long stay (O-A) for foreigners aged 50 years or older ...." Then you must have many more documents.
Gregor **********
you need to be TM30 registered in order to be able to apply for any service from Immigration. You not necessarily need a rental contract, however since you are doing the conversion from a touristic entry to the initial 90-days Non-O visa inside Thailand, the rental contract is mandatory. If you had entered on a 90-days Non-O visa, you would not need a rental contract to apply for the 1-year extension. A hotel stay would be sufficient.
Jesper *******
To apply for the nonO inside thailand .....u need to have more than 15days on your current stamp and already have a thai bank acct with 800k in it and a lease agreement (that covers your 90days)
Jesper *******
When i first apply for the 90days nonO inside thailand a 6mths lease agreement is all they need how ever when i do the 1yr extensions they need to see the owner's ID (copies) , the blue book and a lease agreement covering your 1yr extension period
Shawn ********
First, you're not applying for 3 month Non-O, you are applying for a visa conversion to Non-O from within Thailand. You will not have deposited your 400,000 baht yet - because you are not eligible to open a Thai Bank account (yet).
Taking this route is fraught with these kinds of requirements that are difficult to satisfy, but yes - you do need to show residence receipts whether that's a hotel, apartment, etc. When I took this route for example, I had to show that my wife had a lease and all of the documents listed here.
More importantly, don't take this route unless you are willing to hire an agent to assist you. It's purposely designed to be difficult if not impossible (conversion of visa).
I tried. I failed. I took advice from this forum and made a quick trip to Laos and did this online a in a week with no issues (can go as fast as 3 days).
Here's how a Non-O works. Apply from outside the country, get a 90 temporary Non-O visa while you apply for the 12 month extension. Open the bank account, get your residency docs, etc ready, go to Immigration and apply for the 12 month extension at the seasoning date of your bank account.
Wait a few weeks and go back to get your 12 month extension stamp.
Taking this route is fraught with these kinds of requirements that are difficult to satisfy, but yes - you do need to show residence receipts whether that's a hotel, apartment, etc. When I took this route for example, I had to show that my wife had a lease and all of the documents listed here.
More importantly, don't take this route unless you are willing to hire an agent to assist you. It's purposely designed to be difficult if not impossible (conversion of visa).
I tried. I failed. I took advice from this forum and made a quick trip to Laos and did this online a in a week with no issues (can go as fast as 3 days).
Here's how a Non-O works. Apply from outside the country, get a 90 temporary Non-O visa while you apply for the 12 month extension. Open the bank account, get your residency docs, etc ready, go to Immigration and apply for the 12 month extension at the seasoning date of your bank account.
Wait a few weeks and go back to get your 12 month extension stamp.
Ramūnas ********
OPShawn Sheely
So far, there is only talk about a 90-day NON-O visa for people over 50. And the requirements were presented yesterday, which are quite simple...
So far, there is only talk about a 90-day NON-O visa for people over 50. And the requirements were presented yesterday, which are quite simple...
Nongnuch ********
Ramūnas Rezgis So can I presume you already have the required 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account? Or do you use the embassy certified income affidavit over a monthly income/pension of 65,000 THB?
Shawn ********
Ramūnas Rezgis Yes, that’s the Non-Immigrant O retirement 90 application window (similar to Family/Spouse). Those are the requirements for conversion from another visa. Long story short, leave and come back - everything else is a fight.
Marianne ********
Unless you have a bank account in Thailand already, you will need to leave and apply from a different country instead.
You can't apply in-country without a bank account unless you go through an agent that will do everything for you.
And that is expensive.
You can't apply in-country without a bank account unless you go through an agent that will do everything for you.
And that is expensive.
Marianne ********
Ramūnas Rezgis Ah, right.
Yes, if your Embassy still provides a Income Affidavit, that is a option.
Yes, if your Embassy still provides a Income Affidavit, that is a option.
Phil ******
Ramūnas Rezgis did you not post this before?
Ok. You needed to start your application from your home country. You dont need to waste money on a agent. You'll find it difficult to get a bank account
Ok. You needed to start your application from your home country. You dont need to waste money on a agent. You'll find it difficult to get a bank account
David **********
Phil Beer the Non-O doesn't require you to be in your home country. However if you're applying from say Vietnam, they will ask for proof of current location.
Phil ******
David E Moore i cunderstand this
Ramūnas ********
OPPhil Beer
I published this post for the first time today, but not in one, but in several groups... You don't need to have an account in a Thai bank to get this type of visa... Since the requirements are not complicated, I'm trying to do everything without the help of intermediaries... The problem is that I'm almost out of time - Monday is the last day when I can submit an application to the migration service to get this visa.
I published this post for the first time today, but not in one, but in several groups... You don't need to have an account in a Thai bank to get this type of visa... Since the requirements are not complicated, I'm trying to do everything without the help of intermediaries... The problem is that I'm almost out of time - Monday is the last day when I can submit an application to the migration service to get this visa.
Anthony *************
Come on guys, it’s not a year visa it’s a 90 out of country and while in country with 90 you can turn it into a year, I got my 90 non O in two days, but OUT OF Country, Not In Country
Phil ******
Ramūnas Rezgis correct but the purpose of this visa is the 12-month Non O extension.
Or you don't need the extension?
Or you don't need the extension?
Ramūnas ********
OPPhil Beer
If, after receiving a 90-day NON-O for persons over 50 years of age, I want to extend this visa for another 12 months, then I will open an account in a Thai bank and transfer 800,000 baht there, more than 2 months before the new application is submitted... because with this type of visa, Thai banks allow opening accounts
If, after receiving a 90-day NON-O for persons over 50 years of age, I want to extend this visa for another 12 months, then I will open an account in a Thai bank and transfer 800,000 baht there, more than 2 months before the new application is submitted... because with this type of visa, Thai banks allow opening accounts
Scott ***********
3 month Thai E-Visa... online
Ramūnas ********
OPScott Hutchison
It is not possible to obtain a visa online while in Thailand.
It is not possible to obtain a visa online while in Thailand.
Scott ***********
Ramūnas Rezgis VPN
David **********
It's almost easier to go to Laos or Vietnam and get your non-o from there. The list you have looks like the list needed to convert from visa exempt/tourist visa to non-o while already in Thailand.
Angelo ***********
David E Moore Looks indeed like that!
Ramūnas ********
OPThat's exactly what I want to do - change the 60-day visa-free stay in Thailand to a 90-day NON-O type visa for people over 50 years old...
David **********
Ramūnas Rezgis Is it safe to presume you already have the required 800k Thai baht in a Thai bank? The day you go to immigration they will want a bank statement dated the same day showing the money has been in the bank for at least 3 months, your updated bank book and a 'certificate of ownership' for your bank account.
Nongnuch ********
David E Moore wrong. For the application at the Immigration to the change from visa-exempt to the initial 90-days visa, there is NO seasoning requirement for the 800,00 THB. Only when he applies for the 1-year extension, he needs the bank letter that confirms a 2 months seasoning.
AmbitiousDa***********
David E Moore by the way, I do have a need to convert from visa exempt to non O within Chiangmai. And I already have a bkk bank account that has enough funds. So is this list by this poster what I should go by?
Ramūnas ********
OPAmbitiousDachshund8717
this list of requirements is longer and was provided by the Chonburi Migration Center...
this list of requirements is longer and was provided by the Chonburi Migration Center...
David **********
AmbitiousDachshund8717 Every immigration office has its own requirements, so it's best to go to your local office. It should be similar, but they may ask for more (or less)
Ant ***********
Are you in Thailand
If so you will need an agent
Unless you have a Thai bank account
Or
Willing to leave Thailand & apply from your country or another ( cheaper & easier )
If so you will need an agent
Unless you have a Thai bank account
Or
Willing to leave Thailand & apply from your country or another ( cheaper & easier )
Roger *******
tell them you will stay at a hotel until you find a condo you like? but all those documents are required for the tm30 anyway which you will have to do if you are renting.
Tim ******
From my experience when doing my 12 month extension all those documents are attached to the lease agreement they were in my case.. for the initial non-o Visa applied for in your home country those are not requirements and it’s all done Online
John **********
I assume you already have a Thai bank account with the required funds or an income certificate from your embassy in Thailand?
You should be able to use a hotel but you should have a long term agreement to stay at that hotel of at least 3 months
You should be able to use a hotel but you should have a long term agreement to stay at that hotel of at least 3 months
Ole ***************
@John *********
why, he might only want to stay 90 days, the application for a temporary 1 year extension (TM 7) is only an option
Producti********
it’s only 3 months. anyone can travel to different side of Thailand and stay in hotels. they should have misunderstood that gave you that requirement list.
Ramūnas ********
OPProductiveOwl276 I asked the immigration office if it was possible to get a three-month NON-O pensioner visa while in Thailand and that's it.. And they gave me a list of requirements... And everything is pretty simple and clear there except for the point about accommodation..
Anthony *************
90 out of country then can be turned into 1 year, if your in Thailand jump over to Laos and get 90, you can’t do it in country and that’s why u got that list , cause if you can fulfill it ur amazing
Nongnuch ********
Ramūnas Rezgis and what about the required Thai bank account with a minimum of 800,000 THB aleady sitting in it? And a proof that the money was transferred from abroad ?! Can you fulfill this? Because it also is a requirement. Pretty simple and clear
Brian *******
Nongnuch Kamdee they are not going to ask him for that for a 3 month visa
Wayne *********
You applying while in Thailand?
Ramūnas ********
OPWayne Roberts Of course...
Nongnuch ********
Ramūnas Rezgis "of course" ??? . . . . . . . you have choosen to start on the wrong foot. You should have applied for the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa in your home country. Because it makes opening of a Thai bank account easy and you won't need any rental contract for the application to the 1-year extension of the stay permit based on retirement
Ramūnas ********
OPNongnuch Kamdee
I'm tired of repeating the same thing over and over again...
I did not promise to open any visa either in my country or in Thailand. On Friday I was at the immigration office with another person and while waiting for them to sort out their own affairs I decided to contact the information office about this because I had heard that this was impossible to do from Thai territory. and when I received information that it was all possible - only Monday was the last day, so I tried to spontaneously and quickly sort it out... If it doesn't work out - then no problem... I repeat again - I didn't even promise to get a visa! And I'm repeating it for the tenth time! This type of visa does not require any Thai bank account! I was clearly told this by the migration service!
I'm tired of repeating the same thing over and over again...
I did not promise to open any visa either in my country or in Thailand. On Friday I was at the immigration office with another person and while waiting for them to sort out their own affairs I decided to contact the information office about this because I had heard that this was impossible to do from Thai territory. and when I received information that it was all possible - only Monday was the last day, so I tried to spontaneously and quickly sort it out... If it doesn't work out - then no problem... I repeat again - I didn't even promise to get a visa! And I'm repeating it for the tenth time! This type of visa does not require any Thai bank account! I was clearly told this by the migration service!
Wayne *********
Ramūnas Rezgis much easier to apply outside of Thailand dont need all that info. Just a hotel booking no landlords etc.
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