What are my options for getting a Non-O visa based on retirement in Thailand?

Question

I have admitted to stay in my Aussie passport until 25 July 2020.
Entered Swampy on OA longstay based on retirement. 25 July 2019.
Can't use OA for second year bcoz of Health Insurance requirements.
So I need to break the chain and exit on or before 25 July 2020.
Then come back in on what? Visa exempt?

Plan A
Can I do this via Penang same day flight?
If granted visa exempt as Aussie passport when should I go to Chonburi immigration to apply for O visa based on retirement?
Do I deposit 800thb in my Thai bank 3 months prior to season? Or is it 2 months prior? Does 800k thb need to come from abroad?
How long do they issue the O visa for within Thailand?

Plan B
Go home to Aus on 25 July 2020
Apply for O visa based on retirement and assuming it is issued can I apply on income method....which I've used on 2 prior OA visas. Or Does the O visa based on retirement still require the 800k in a Thai account? 
Please advise as my head is emulating a tumble dryer at the moment with lots of confusing requirements. 
More grey hairs for Tod to sort.
Thankyou

Ask Thailand · Answer

The user is currently on an OA longstay visa in Thailand until July 25, 2020, but cannot use it for a second year due to health insurance requirements. They are considering two plans: Plan A involves exiting Thailand and re-entering on a visa-exempt basis to apply for a Non-O visa based on retirement. They seek clarification on the requirements for the deposit in a Thai bank and the timeline for application. Plan B involves returning to Australia to apply for the Non-O visa, with questions about using income methods versus the required bank deposit.

Tod ********* · Answer

No matter what you're doing you might as well max the time you got on your entry stamp out and not deal with this until July 2020.

Plan A <- bounce out and back, get a 30 day visa exempt entry, go to Chonburi immigration and immediately apply for an in country 90 day Non-O visa. You are NOT gonna be able to use income method unless it's incoming international transfers like I outlined.

Plan B <- going back to Canberra to get a 90 day Non-O.

CONTACT them FIRST and see if they can even issue it before you go back to get it

Tod ********* · Answer

okay, unfortunately that issue would have been needed to be corrected BEFORE you entered the country.

I don't know of any way to get it sorted after you stamped in at all. ALl you got was one year entry. Although you could have maxed it out by bouncing out and back before Oct 17th and gotten stamped in until Oct 2020

Be that as it may,

Tod ********* · Answer

[mention redacted] aren't you the one who only got a 90 day Non-O -A visa from them?

This is your visa right?

Tod ********* · Answer

Okay, let me see if I can get my head around this

What is the "valid until' date on the O-A visa from Canberra?

And what is the "admitted until" date on your current entry stamp.

Tod ********* · Answer

Unless I'm wrong your consulate stopped issuing affidavits of income from abroad, so if you're going to use monthly income method you need to be transferring into the country 65K baht a month each month EVERY month for the previous 12 months before you're going to apply for your extension.

Robert ******* · Answer

Plan B is just a mix of all kind of requirements and will not work. If you go home, take a look at the Thai Consulate you like to use for the requirements needed.

Tod ********* · Answer

There are multiple reports that say people CAN and HAVE entered on an O-A visa issued before Oct 31st who were not asked for proof of insurance.

Try it and see, I mean the worst that will happen is you'll get denied entry on the O-A and they'll stamp you in on a 30 day visa exempt entry that you could use to apply for an in country Non-O 90 day visa

Robert ******* · Answer

Plan A. Visit your Immigration Office first for the requirements and see if they can and will convert your Visa Exempt Entry into a Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age. In theory yes, they are allowed to do this, you need minimum 15 days left on your stay and 800.000 Thb deposited into a Thai bank account from abroad. But as said best is to ask before flying out and back in to find out what is possible. For the flight out and back in same day, there are travel advice pages or offices.

Tod ********* · Answer

okay and you know you can't enter for the second year how exactly?

What are my options for getting a Non-O visa based on retirement in Thailand?

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