Arriving in Thailand mid July on a non o retirement visa
Should I transfer my private pension directly each month into my Thai bank or should I arrange for my private pension to be paid into my UK bank and then withdraw monthly into my Thai bank. ??
Are there transfer fee's to be paid each month
And if so which option best suits
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The question discusses the best method for transferring a private pension to Thailand while residing there on a NON-O retirement visa. Options include having the pension directly deposited into a Thai bank or into a UK bank account and then transferring it using services like Wise. Suggestions from the community highlight the importance of managing banking risks, potential fees, and the challenges posed by UK banks regarding account maintenance for non-residents.
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I've seen comments about UK banks closing accounts if you are not living in UK, I haven't found that to be the case for me but it might be true for some banks. I am with HSBC and have my Thailand address registered with them plus I have been living full time in Thailand since 2012 and don't have a problem. HSBC is advertised as an 'international' bank so maybe it's different to other UK banks. All banks are different regarding money transfers and I can only talk about the banks I've used, before I left UK I had to go into my other bank to transfer money in person or use a service like Wise which is why I opened the HSBC account and I can transfer using the Internet for a fee of about £4 and I always transfer in GBP doing the exchange in my Thai bank (Kasikorn) for the best rate. Do what I did, go to the banks and ask them directly about what happens if you move and how you will be able to manage transfers without being in UK. As far as having the pension paid into a Thai bank, that's a possibility but I prefer to have it paid into my UK bank and transfer it when the exchange rate is higher and also transfering it in GBP as if it's paid direct to the Thai bank the exchange is more likely to be done in the UK bank (they make more money that way) and it will be worse plus you will be paying a transfer fee each time so you could lose quite a bit of money over the year. Just in caase you are wondering, yes I have informed UK pensions that I am living in Thailand so that is not the reason that I am still using a UK bank. Another concern might be if you intend to make frequent trips to UK and if so having money in the UK bank makes more sense, I don't go back so that's not the reason for me.
The issue is that often UK banks won’t allow you to have a bank account if you live overseas. If you have a uk address (rental property and a uk forwarding address,like a family member) and transactions come and go you should be ok. But it will depend on the bank. If your pension is your only income and you transfer each month from uk to overseas they’ll get suspicious as your banking activity may get flagged up. Also you could ask your pension provided if they’ll pay into an overseas bank. For transfers from uk to Thailand you can use Wise among others but they charge per transaction so you’d need to check how much that would come to on a monthly basis.
Santander froze my accounts for months and now just closed them. I have my pension going to Lloyds and not transferred any yet. Thinking to transfer to my wise account but very wary. Both Lloyds and Wise are registered with a UK address.
Side note: now that i am a tax resident because of being in Thailand 180+, I have to find out the best ways to transfer to be the most tax efficient
Great information but that is totally different to the way i was treated. I went 5mths with joint accounts frozen, my personal account had access. Took another 8 weeks with their complaints dept to get sorted. Gave me 75 pounds for my trouble. I would have preferred no trouble
I had my private pensions transfers into my uk bank account then transferred through Wise each month to Thailand bank
It was ok for around a year then I got letters from the bank fraud team asking me for all sorts of details where all the money was coming from and asking for all tax details on this money I provided everything then a month later thy send a letter saying my account will be getting closed down .. so I contacted my pension providers and thy transferred everything to my Thailand account .. So to save any hassle I would call your pension provider see if thy transfer your pension directly…
I would firstly give my bank a family address so they can send correspondence etc. Since many uk banks will close your account if you dont have a uk address. Then I would have my pension paid into my home address and transfer the money to my thai account using wise, the transfer costs and exchange rates from your home bank will be poor compared to wise.
you can use transfers of 65,000 THB up, when you apply for the second year of an extension of stay permit. For the first year, you need a minimum of 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account for 2 months if you want to apply for the 1-year extension of stay (because your embassy is not issuing an affidavit of income so you need proof of 12 months of 65,000 transfers)
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