Unanswereda year ago

Can I use an office rental in Thailand as proof of a foreign branch for German tax purposes?

German Tax Law Visa Regulations Office Rental in Thailand Expatriation and Taxation Branch Office Requirements

Robin ****

asked Sep 18, 2025

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Legal question for german people: can I Rent an Office here for workation and use it as Proof for german Tax Office, that I have a „Branch“ here? (For all other: Germany want to See to Perpetual Traveler, that you have a kind of Office Abroad or you have to pay tax in german even for your Thai income).

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The question seeks to clarify whether renting an office in Thailand can serve as proof to the German tax office for having a branch abroad, in light of German tax obligations for perpetual travelers. Responses indicate skepticism about this being accepted as valid evidence by the Finanzamt, highlighting that income earned in Thailand requires proper registration and a work visa. Additionally, suggestions include the need for a rental contract for a regular apartment or other forms of proof.

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Alex ********

Heil

a year ago

Robin ****

@Alex *******

dude 😂

a year ago

Pete *******

Not a chance it would be accepted by the Finanzamt.

a year ago

Robin ****

@Pete ******

why?

a year ago

Anonymous ******************

No idea about German law. Maybe stamps from your passport, certificate of residency or rental contract (of a normal apartment) would be enough?

a year ago

Olaf *********

You are not allowed to have thai income as long you are not registered in Thailand and have a Visa that allows you to work. DTV is only for people, that have a recidence elsewhere and do not stay longer than 180 days a year at Thailand. You cannot officially claim for a branch.

a year ago

Jon **********

@Olaf ********

There is no limit to 180 days per year for DTV. It's 180 days per entry but you can leave and come back the same day. Also, you can extend in country for another 180 days.

a year ago

Robin ****

@Olaf ********

Its Not Thai income I work for foreign Clients with foreign Company. That is exactly what dtv is made for

a year ago

Robin ****

@Olaf ********

many people gibt up The Residence if you can stay 5 years

a year ago

Olaf *********

@Robin ***

ja, aktuell beachten die Grenzer das ganze nicht richtig. Die stempeln jedesmal bei Ausreise und Wiedereinreise neue 180 Tage. Steuerrechtlich gilt aber der tatsächliche Aufenthalt. Mehr als 183 Thailand heißt volle Steuerplflicht in Thailand.

a year ago

Robin ****

@Olaf ********

ich bin abgemeldet und es geht mir um eine weitere llc in den USA. Gehalt bekomme ich weiterhin über eine Gesellschaft.jt der ich das Visum beantragt habe

a year ago

Olaf *********

@Robin ***

deine steuerliche Betriebsstätte liegt aktuell wo? Bist du aus Deutschland angemeldet persönlich?

a year ago

Robin ****

@Olaf ********

darum geht's mit nicht. Es geht darum dass man für das Finanzamt und astg eine Betriebsstätte nachweisen muss

a year ago

Anonymous ******************

@Olaf ********

that's not true. I stay here the whole 2025, more than 180 days. We were also already discussing the term "residency".