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Can I convert a visa exemption into a retirement extension of stay in Thailand?

Visa Requirements Extension of Stay Retirement Visa (NON-O)Visa Exemption Immigration Procedures Income Proof for Visa Thai Bank Account Travel from Germany to Thailand

Nov 9, 2025

3 days ago

Kay ********

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Hi guys,

After I have small problems with my permit of stay, I like to get next time (Feb. 2026) an extension of stay​based on retired.

I have a german passwort and live in Germany.

The problem is, I can not ask for any Visa in Germany, because my small village is not in there system. Try a lot.

2024 I make 2 NON-O, so it was possible and easy to do online.

2025 I try many time, not possible anymore. Try different browser, Linux Windows and so on....

Question now, can I come with Visa exemtion and confert it to extension of stay based on retired. Of course if I can show all nessesary proof.

Immigration for me is Khon Kaen.

For my proof of income , like to get a guarantee letter from german embassi, prefer Chiang Mai or pattaya, enjoy to travel.

If not possible Bangkok. My income is high enough. No Mix of income need.

Happy to hear your thought.

Thanks

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TLDR : Answer Summary

An individual is inquiring about entering Thailand with a visa exemption and subsequently converting it to a retirement extension. Comments clarify that one cannot directly convert a visa-exempt entry to a retirement extension. Instead, the individual should apply for a NON-O visa based on retirement once in Thailand and then seek an extension. Some suggestions include coming visa-free to Thailand and consulting visa agents for assistance, including securing a retirement visa and opening a Thai bank account.

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Alex ****

Just come to Thailand - you don’t need any visa to visit Thailand at the moment if you have a German passport!

Once you’re in Thailand - any visa agent will get you a retirement visa and a Thai bank account.

Expect to spend 1,000 Euro or more - but you will get 15 months retirement visa.

You can extend your retirement visa next year for free if you deposit 800,000 Baht into your Thai bank account.

Thousands of people do that every year!

I did exactly that too!

a day ago

Mark **********

one way is - come to thailand visa-free 60 days, take trip to laos or cambodia, then apply for non-o there

a day ago

Andrew *********

Do you have a Thai bank account.

3 days ago

Kay ********

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@Andrew ********

have a Thai Bank acount , but to much account get clossed , not like to put a lot of money in the Account

3 days ago

Gregor **********

@Kay *******

you might need this account, because since recently, some Immigration offices have started to require a few transfers from abroad from applicants who use the embassy income affidavit. You need to ask your Immigration office what their current policy is

2 days ago

Kay ********

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@Gregor *********

I use my bankaccount regulär, just not like to fill up to 800.000฿

But money come from wise, need to sort this maybe also out.

2 days ago

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Kay ********

Ellie *******

@Andrew ********

, if OP can get an affidavit from his embassy in Thailand, he doesn't have to have a bank account in Thailand.

3 days ago

Gregor **********

@Ellie ******

some Immigrations have changed their policies against applicants who use the income affidavits of their embassies. They now additionally require that the applicant has a Thai bank account, and can show a few transfers having come into it from abroad . . . . . The OP should URGENTLY ask "his" Immigration if they require a Thai bank account, additional to the embassy affidavit

2 days ago

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Gregor **********

Ellie *******

Q. can I come with Visa exemtion and confert it to extension of stay based on retired?

-> No. You cannot apply for an extension based on retirement directly to your visa-exempt entry.

First, you need to apply for an initial in-country Non-O visa based on retirement for 90 days. Then apply for a 1-year extension based on the same reason when your Non-O stamp is remaining for 30 days or less. This initial visa and the first extension have to be applied to the same immigration office.

As you said, if you can get an affidavit from your embassy in Thailand, it's possible to apply for an in-country initial Non-O based on retirement. Check with your local immigration office for detailed requirements with timeline once you arrive there.

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3 days ago

Kay ********

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@Ellie ******

Thanks, help a lot.

The Initial extension based on retirement start to count , at the moment I get the stamp in my passport or after my visa exemtion days (at moment 60 days ) count out

3 days ago

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Kay ********

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