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What do I need to know about applying for a retirement visa in Thailand from Australia?

Ken ********
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Hi All.

I'm trying to find submit retirement visa from Australia..

Told there is a 12 month retirement O multiple entry 60 days at a time..

No health insurance or police check.

Demonstrate 65k bht monthly income.

Anyone with experience in applying for this.

All help appreciated.

Thanks..

Ken..
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Ken is seeking information about applying for a retirement visa (specifically the Non-O or Non-OA Visa) from Australia to Thailand. He mentions the 12-month retirement visa that allows 60-day stays and asks for insights into the application process, particularly regarding health insurance, police checks, and income requirements. Responses from the community clarify that for the 90-day Non-O visa, there are several pathways including showing a monthly income of 65,000 THB or having 800,000 THB in a Thai bank account. There are no health insurance or police check requirements for the Non-O Visa, but these apply to the Non-OA Visa. Furthermore, community members provide detailed guidance on the necessary financial documentation, potential pitfalls regarding terminology, and the importance of having a Thai bank account for processing the visa extension.
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Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Look into Non-OA if you want a 1-Year retirement visa. It is actually much better than Multiple Entry Non-O as you dont have to leave every 90-Day. The downside is the need for health insurance for a full year. It is multiple entry (no re-entry permit required), and you dont have to move money to Thailand, and can do with a monthly income in your home country.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN there is no more multi-entry Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa anymore, on which you would have had to leave every 90 days. This visa type got discontinued by October 2023. Nowadays you start out on the 90 days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa, then change it to the 12-months extension of stay permit. For this 1-year stay permit you buy a multi re-entry permit.It is by far the better choice than a Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa, that requires a mandatory tgia-liste Thai private health insurance once you switch to the extension out of it
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Greg Alexander, Non-OA is long-stay visa for retirement. It is multiple entry for real. You can use almost any health insurance. I have made a lot of those.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN just go ahead and find out . . . . your info is obsolete
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN only people who are grandfathered, can extend base on forein insurances. Just check out teh website of the Phuket Immigration Volunteers. The grandfathing of O/A visa insurances got discontinued by 2021
Graham ******
Graham ******
Henrik JN Are these people ones that have come off their Non-OA and are now on their first or second extension or are they prople who have had multiple extensions and are, therefore, grandfathered and using the old requirements for their extensions as Greg explained?
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN BS
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Greg Alexander, you are making up your own rules in best case based on one Immigration. Ppl are actually extending the Non-OA visa based on foreign insurance. You might have to get the police legalised at your Embassy.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN you are still wrong and I won't continue this fruitless discussion. It is like talking to a slice of bread . . . . . From the extension onward, out of an initial Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa, Immigration only accepts a tgia-listed Thai private health insurance. Your "pre-approved" foreign insurance will NOT be accepted, even if it has signed the F.I.C. Go visit Immigration and find out who gives the correct info.
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Greg Alexander, not true. Non-OA doesnt require a pre-approved Thai health insurance at all, neither for the initial visa nor the extension. True, that you get a "discount" on the requirements if you have continuously extended since 2018, but that is another story. You need a health insurance with the coverage of 3 M THB and a form signed by the insurance company. That is all. Same for Non-OX. The financial requirement for extension of Non-OA is same as for Non-O. However, many ppl. go back to their home country to do a new Non-OA as it is more easy to show monthly income this way. Every time you will get 1 year without extension instead of the circus of getting 90 days to be extended into 1 year. The only disadvantage is that you need a full 1-Year health insurance even though you might stay shorter, and for an optional 2nd year on the same visa, you will need health insurance for that time in Thailand also.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN The Non-Imm-O/A Visa is called "Long Stay Visa". Yes, you have to be over 50 years old, and you don't even need to be retired. The only REAL "Retirement Visa" is the 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa . . . . . . . . . .I am amazed how careless people use the word “Retirement Visa”.

Do you mean the 90-days Retirement Visa or do you mean the 1-year Retirement Extension?

Actually, the term “retirement visa” can mean seven (7) different visas and stay permits, it depends what people like to say, be it wrong or not.

With kind regards and thanks to Robert Lagas, who wrote it up originally, and whose original text I have only marginally altered.

Once more, because people try to give advice based on what they think is a "Retirement Visa"

First of all, you do not have to be retired to apply for this visa. You however need to be 50 years or older.

Well, some Thai embassies will insist that you already receive a pension, or they will tell you to apply for the Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa instead. How the Thai embassy in your country handles this, you need to check beforehand.

Second is that all options have DIFFERENT rules, regulations and requirements.

So please read and refrain from giving incorrect advice by mixing up and confusing the requirements for different types of visa or extensions of stay.

What is a retirement visa?

It is a phrase used by foreigners and Immigration and it could be seven different types of visa or stay permits, with different rules, regulations and requirements

OR

it could even be an 1 year Extension of Stay based on being over 50 years of age and willing to sit out the rest of their life inside Thailand.

It is easy to type “retirement visa”, but very difficult to understand which option the person refers to

Options are:

1. Single Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age

2. Multiple Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age (it got discontinued by October 2023 and is not available any more)

3. Non Immigrant O visa based on being over 50 years of age without entry by conversion at local immigration office

4. Non Immigrant O-A visa (Long Stay)

5. Non Immigrant O-X visa

6. Long Term Residency (LTR) visa

7. Extension of Stay based on being over 50 years of age and willing to sit out the rest of their life inside Thailand (stamp from Immigration, which is not a visa)

ONLY for options 3, 5 and 7 the applicant needs a bank account in Thailand or a Certificate of Income from their Embassy.

Option 2 cannot be applied for any more, since all Thai Embassies and Consulates took it out of the E-visa program.

Option 3 is applied for by conversion of your Visa Exempt Entry or Tourist Visa at your local Immigration Office inside Thailand.

Option 6 is applied for with support of BOI Thailand

Option 7 is applied for at your local Immigration Office AFTER you used a Non-Immigrant visa.

Other options are applied for at a Thai Consulate OR for those countries who are legit, on-line.

*** Keep in mind: there are multi-entry VISA-types that come with a multi re-entry permit included. Like the LTR or the 1-year Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa

*** the 90 days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa is a single re-entry visa type. You can only do ONE single entry into Thailand. After having entered, the visa is invalid.

*** while you are on the 90-days stay permit out of the Non-Imm-O retirement visa, you can apply for the 1-year extension of (the) temporary stay permit based on being over 50/retired.

Once this 1-year extended stay permit got issued, you can buy a re-entry permit (single or multiple) for this extended 1-year stay permit

Thanks for reading this long explanation.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN Maybe you have been "grandfathered" and thus been allowed tho continue the old conditions (which were altered by 2018) to use a foreign or any insurance. However a newcomer will NOT receive any of the formerly valid conditions. A newcomer can get almost two years of stay permit out of the Non-Imm-O/A visa on a foreign insurance or any insurance. But once he goes past it and applies for the 1-year extension of the stay permit, Immigration only accepts one of the 12 tgia-listed Thai private health insurances. They won't accept a foreign insurance anymore. Go check with your Immigration and find out that what I told you is true
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Henrik JN the Non-Imm-O/A Visa is not the real retirement visa. It is a "Longstay Visa". Once he goes from the O/A visa stay permit to the 1-year extension, he will need a minimum of 800,000 THB in the Thai bank account and a private tgia-listed Thai health insurance. It is a pretty BAD visa if you want to make a move to live in Thailand for the rest of your life. For this purpose you should start on the Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa, with this visa type, you keep your freedom of choice regarding the health insurance
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Andreas Mueller, simply not true. You can use almost any health insurance.
Ken ********
Ken ********
OP
Andreas Mueller I can't seem to find that in the portal
Ken ********
Ken ********
OP
Henrik JN cool..please tell me more
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Ken Jermey be careful and WARNED! The Non-O/A visa has its disadvantages, once you go from the visa to the 1-year extension. From this point on you need a worthless thai tgia-listed insurance. If you start on the Non-Imm-O, there is no mandatory insurance
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Greg Alexander, The Immigration Bureau's amended rules explicitly allow both Thai and foreign health insurance.

However, for a foreign insurance policy, there is an additional requirement:

- Minimum coverage: 3,000,000 THB (USD 100,000).

- Must cover medical expenses in Thailand, including COVID-19.

- Must cover the entire requested period of stay.

- The insurer must complete, sign and stamp Thailand's prescribed Foreign Insurance Certificate.

- For an extension, the foreign insurance certificate must also be certified through the procedure specified by Immigration.

The Immigration Bureau's official guideline specifically describes certification by an embassy in Thailand or notarisation through the applicant's country's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Greg Alexander, you are wrong. I know ppl. doing this. Maybe some immigrations have got it wrong. Not the first time.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Henrik JN No, you are wrong. You can get almost two years of stay permit out of the Non-Imm-O/A visa on a foreign insurance or any insurance. But once you go past it and you apply for the 1-year extension of the stay permit, Immigration only accepts one of the 12 tgia-listed Thai private health insurances. They won't accept a foreign insurance anymore. Go check with your Immigration and find out that what I told you is true
Henrik ****
Henrik ****
Andreas Mueller, not true. You can use almost any health insurance.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
There are several roads leading to the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa and to the subsequent “1-year Extension of Temporary Stay Permit based on retirement”, which is a long-term stay permit

MIND YOUR WORDING:

you do not apply for the “retirement visa” on Immigration after you have entered Thailand on the “90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa” you obtained through the E-Visa online system outside of Thailand.

When you enter Thailand on the 90-days “Non-Imm-O retirement visa”, you get stamped in for a 90-days stay permit. The visa itself will become invalid or “used”. It cannot get “extended”. This is technically just not possible. Don’t fall for the wrong wording used by Thai Immigration, for whom a visa and a stay permit erroneously are the same thing.

I am talking about the most common misunderstanding regarding the rules for applying for the “retirement visa” and the subsequent “one-year extension of stay permit based on retirement”. Misunderstandings happen because a “retirement visa” can mean seven (!) different visas and stay permits, but please let’s remain on topic. The most erroneous wording is from people who call the 1-year extended stay permit a “retirement visa” – a mistake that always makes me cringe.

*** The best way is to show up in Thailand on a “90-days single entry Non-Imm-O Retirement/over 50 visa”. It will get you stamped in for 90-days stay permit. Within this 90-days period, you have plenty of time to arrange for the application to the “1-year extended stay permit”.

The important fact is, that entering on this visa-type enables you to get a Thai bank account opened. If you enter on a tourist visa or visa-exempt, you cannot get a Thai bank account opened any more since February 2025. Only a handful of agents offer a service around the law, and it costs up from 60,000 Baht and I have already been quoted 90,000 Baht.

There is NO mandatory health insurance or a police record check or a medical checkup required for the Non-O visa-type. These are requirements only for the application to the 365-days Non-Imm-O/A Longstay Visa, which is a completely different visa-type.

You will need the Thai bank account in case you want to convert the 90-days stay permit into a “1-year extension of the stay permit”.

You can theoretically fly on a one-way ticket because this visa allows you to receive a long-term stay in Thailand. Some airlines might not accept this explanation and will ask you for an onward travel proof out of Thailand within these 90 days, that’s why you should communicate with them by email and see what they say.

In order to apply for the “90-days single entry Non-Imm-O retirement visa” through the online E-visa system at the Royal Thai Embassy of your home country or any other country, you can

EITHER

use proof of income of a monthly minimum of 65.000.- THB, by using your original pension or other income documentation,

OR

you can use a deposit of a minimum of 800,000 THB or the equivalent in your home country currency, or on your home bank account, or on your Thai bank account (if you got one), or just anywhere in the World – as long as it is in your sole name.

Most Thai embassies will require 3 months of account statements. You need to check the website of the embassy you will use for the exact info.

ATTENTION! . . .For the application inside Thailand to the “1-year extension of the stay permit based on retirement”, the financial proof will be slightly different. You cannot use any original income/pension documents from your home country.

If you are a citizen of a country whose embassy in Bangkok does not issue a certified “income affidavit” any more –

(which are the embassies of USA, Canada, UK, Norway and Australia)

you would need a “12 months bank statement” showing that for the past 12 months, you have been transferring from abroad to your Thai bank account a minimum of 65,000 THB, consecutively month for month, not missing a single month.

If your embassy still issues a certified affidavit of income, you can use it for the financial proof. You would need a monthly income or pension of a minimum of 65,000 THB.

For British, Canadian, Norwegian, Australian and U.S. citizens, in the first year there is no other way around than depositing a minimum of 800,000 THB in your Thai bank account - at least in the first year

The alternative would be, if you don’t have that kind of money or are not willing to deposit 24,000 Dollar in a Thai Bank account, is paying an agent to “arrange” the requirements to get around the law.

As soon as you have accumulated 12 consecutive months of 65,000 THB transfers, month for month, you can apply for the next 1-year extension of the stay permit, using the 12-months bank statement. After been issued the next extension, you can theoretically take your 800,000 THB out of your bank account.

There is a fee of 1900 THB for the application to a 1-year extension, and you can theoretically do it all by yourself. You are free to accept the help of an agent for the simplified legal service.

NOTE: It is income OR deposit.

There is a third method, called the “combination method”: A combination mix of income and deposit.

Some immigrations don’t allow the combination method in the first year.

And some Immigrations want the deposit part to exceed a minimum of 400,000 THB.

The combination method means that the sum of the deposit AND the monthly income exceeds 800,000 THB in one year.

But let’s continue with the “normal method” (visa issued in your home country, followed by the application to the 1-year extension inside Thailand):

On the day of application to the 1-year extension, the 800,000 THB must have “seasoned” in your account for two months, and this has to be confirmed with the “bank letter of guarantee” (in Thai: rab roong thanakan).

After been issued the “1-year Extension of the Stay Permit based on Retirement”, the 800K need to remain in the account for 3 more months. After these 3 months, the deposit shall never go under 400,000 THB. And before the application for the next “1-year Extension of Stay”, a minimum of 800,000 THB must have seasoned in the account for two months, again.

On the day you get issued the “1-year extension of stay permit”, you should buy a re-entry permit.

A re-entry permit will keep your 1-year stay permit alive and valid in case you want to travel around and exit Thailand before the expiry of the extension.

A single re-entry permit is 1000 THB on Immigration. A multi re-entry is 3800 THB. On a multi re-entry permit stamped, you can exit and re-enter as many times as you wish during the whole 1-year stay permit period.

Again, watch your wording, because many people fail in doing so: the re-entry permit is not a “re-entry visa”. It is just a permit.

Good Luck and a great time in Thailand
Anne-Marie ******
Anne-Marie ******
Greg Alexander thank you for this clear explanation.
Ken ********
Ken ********
OP
Greg Alexander thankyou..I might first do the multiple 6 month entry tourist visa 1st..

Any thoughts..ideas..pit falls..etc
John ********
John ********
Ken Jermey You won’t be allowed to open a Thai bank account using the METV.
Ken ********
Ken ********
OP
Greg Alexander seems so..I guess it doesn't matter if I can show money or income in my Australian account..

You would think if I showed enough to get the non-o retirement ..I would be ok with 1 year extension...Ah Well.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Ken Jermey for checking out different parts of Thailand, the METV is the perfect choice
Ken ********
Ken ********
OP
John Mozley I don't really want to open thai bank account ATM or if possible..tying up that much..I prefer it in my offset
Paul *****
Paul *****
Greg Alexander Great detail in this. I am coming over in another year. Thanks for this info!
Roger *******
Roger *******
For the 65k they want to see monthly transfers to a Thai bank for at least 12 months. Otherwise you need 800k deposit into a Thai bank to start. If you have equivalent 800k Thai baht in Oz, you can apply in Australia, get your 90 day retirement visa, side in Thailand, transfer the 800k to a Thai bank to get your 1 year extension. For the 65k per month Australian embassy no longer issues a letter to confirm your pension, hence the reason for 12 months history.
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
“ multiple entry 60 days at a time “

Is a Visa something totally different
Graham ******
Graham ******
Ant W Tailor that is the 6 month (not a year) METV not a Non-Immigrant visa
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
Graham Seal

Correct
John **********
John **********
That option (although it was 90 days per entry) no longer exists. It disappeared with the move to the evisa system. There's still a Non-O visa based on being over 50 but it's only a 90 day visa which you can then extend for 12 months inside Thailand. You can use monthly income of 65k baht per month to apply for the 90 day Non-O visa or 800k baht both in your Australian bank account. But when it comes to the extension you have no option but to show 800k baht in a Thai bank account for 2 months before you apply for it. You can apply for a re-entry permit if you wish to leave and return which keeps the extension alive
Thomas **********
Thomas **********
@John *********
All correct 😃😃

It’s pretty simple. No need for an +40K agent. I did it this week in Jomtien. Took me 2 times 90 minutes
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Thomas McGovern you can only use an income affidavit for the application to the 12-months extension of stay, if your embassy in Bangkok still issues it. The OP is Australian citizen, his embassy doesn't issue any income affidavit, and that's why his only option is to prove a minimum of 800,000 THB in his Thai bank account seasoned for two months on the day he applies for the extension
Ken ********
Ken ********
OP
@John *********
how hard is that..and can it be extended to 12 months..multiple entries.
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
Ken Jermey

If you can follow some steps

It’s no problem

Multi entry permit is minor - can be bought at the airport before you leave or at any immigration - I don’t buy them unless I know I’m flying out as they expire every 12 months
John **********
John **********
@Ken *******
not difficult at all. And yes it can be extended inside Thailand by 12 months with a multiple re-entry permit
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
This is the starting point for a Non-O

You are applying for a single entry Non-O visa

There is no Multi Entry as such , that is organised once you get here and fulfil the requirements for the 12 month extension
Ken ********
Ken ********
OP
Ant W Tailor how hard is it to arrange multiple entries and 12months
Ant ***********
Ant ***********
Ken Jermey

If you meet the criteria it’s fairly straightforward

Do you plan on coming soon ?

And for an extended period of time?

- fly in with the Non-O

First job is to

- you need to go to a Thai bank ask them what they want to open an account and put 800K baht in a Thai bank account

That money needs to sit there for 60 days - after that - go to the nearest immigration office and ask them

What they need from you to do the 12

Month extension
Graham ******
Graham ******
Ken Jermey plenty of posts on here describing how to enter with a 90 day Non-O then get the 12 month extension plus a multi-entry re-entry permit

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