What are the best visa options for a US citizen planning to marry a Thai girlfriend and stay in Thailand?

Feb 2, 2020
5 years ago
John **********
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Hello. I’m US citizen, over 50, currently here on a 60/90 tourist visa. Planning to marry my Thai gf before I go back to the states in April. I want to come back in July or August for 6 months or so. Not ready to stay here full time yet but would like to spend at least half the time here for now. Looking for recommendations on the easiest/best/cheapest... options. 6 month METV? Or come in on SETV and convert to non-O based on 50+ in Laos? It seems the “marriage visa” has a lot more requirements. Money in Thai bank, insurance, etc? Thanks for all you do. I’ve been reading related posts but there’s so many options and I’m a little confused.
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A US citizen on a tourist visa looking to marry a Thai girlfriend seeks recommendations for the best options to return to Thailand and stay for an extended period. Suggestions include applying for a Multiple Entry Non-O visa based on marriage or considering a 6-month METV (Multiple Entry Tourist Visa). Clarifications regarding financial requirements and extension processes were discussed, emphasizing the distinction between visas based on marriage versus those for retirees (50+). Community responses highlighted the need for careful planning and the importance of monitoring immigration regulations.
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Tod *********
And I think that
@Pra****
has enough info to make an educated decision on what to do.

Good Luck,
John **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Is there a difference in requirements for the “based on marriage “ or the “ based on being over 50” ( besides being married obviously?)
John **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
So if I get married and go to Suvanakhet and apply for a non O multiple entry visa based on Marriage, I need to stay there for 30 days or go back to get the visa?
Robert *******
biggest difference:

Can apply for Work Permit if based on marriage

Can not apply for work based on being over 50 years

Financial requirement:

Need 400.000 Thb on Thai bank if married

Need 800.000 Thb on Thai bank if over 50 years

OR

Need monthly 40.000 Thb income if married

Need monthly 65.000 Thb income if over 50 years.

Application:

More copies and goes 1 month under consideration if married

Less copies and most of the time directly or next day if over 50 years of age
Benjamin ******
There are two things that people are calling "marriage visas" and "retirements visas"

1. The visa sticker.

2. The extension of stay.

The visa sticker is the actual visa you enter on. Generally this visa is a single entry visa, that allows you to stay in Thailand for 3 months. During the 3 months, you go and get an extension of stay, which is valid for one year. On an extension of stay, you do not have to leave the country, you must file a "90 day" report, and if you do leave the country, you must purchase a re-entry permit. The extension of stay can be applied to both "retirement" and "marriage".

For the Multiple Entry Non-O Visa based on Marriage, as purchased in Savannakhet or HCMC ONLY, the requirements are the visa application, the 5,000 THB, the marriage certificate, and a couple of other documents that your wife has (the "house book" cover page and her ID), and for HCMC, a hand written letter, in Thai, from her, requesting the visa. This visa is valid for one year, BUT you can only stay in Thailand for 90 days at a time.

Most "retirement" visas do not allow employment. A Multiple Entry Non-O Visa based on Marriage does allow for employment, so if you want to continue teaching, legally, you can do that on this visa.
Tod *********
okay seeing as you're NOT married yet, let's hold off on the marriage visa advice, he can explore that option AFTER he actually gets married.

Get a 6 month METV before you wing your way back here from one of the 4 thai consulates in the US that sell it and that'll give you almost 9 months of stay (in 60 day increments). You can explore your other visa options once you get back.
Dennis **********
I still think your correct about I need to read and study more about this.
Dennis **********
@Benjamin *****
I turn the Bounces into Flights out of BKK or DMK and a 3-4 day stay mini-holiday.

Did that with Arrival Tourist visa last year and went to Bali and Da Nang with the girlfriend.
Benjamin ******
@Dennis *********
For the cost of doing the border bounces on the Multiple Entry Non-O based on marriage, I think $1K USD is extremely high estimate. At almost all borders you do not have to stay the night. Of course, I don't know where you're at, and this is a rough estimate for my yearly costs using the Kanchanburi/ Htee Kee border.

1. It's $200 (or thereabouts) for the Multiple Entry Non-O visa.

2. For doing the border bounces, at Kanchanburi, Thailand/ Htee Kee, Myanmar border it's 960THB ($30 USD, for rounding). If you want to do it in a single day, the bus from Bangkok to Kanchanburi is 100THB (or $3), and the bus from Kanchanburi to the border is 80THB (or $2.50). So total you're looking at about $50, including food and things at the duty free shack.

2. You'll do this border bounce four times. The visa is valid for a year, and you have to leave Thailand every 90 days. So that'll be about $200 for the border bounces.

3. After your final stamp, you can apply for a 60 day extension of stay for visiting family (again, no proof of finances needed). That's 1,900THB, or about $60 USD.

Other borders have different costs. For example, I know the Malaysian border have free visa on arrival for Americans, and the Laos border costs $35 USD. Of course, if you want to make a weekend/ small holiday of it, the sky's the limit on the budget.
Dennis **********
OK so the people talking about staying in Thai for 6 months are inaccurate/non-precise.

So my decision is the cost of taking GF for a long weekend "Bounce" or a In-Country VISA company offering NON-O (not NON-OA) for a price!

Thanks for the PRECISE clarification.
Dennis **********
That is the portion that has been confusing me each time someone says 6 months I see a statement saying 60 days.

What am I not understanding?
Dennis **********
@T**
-- Period of stay

Travelers with this type of visa will be permitted to stay in Thailand for a period not exceeding 60 days at any time.
Dennis **********
@Tod ********
- I've looked several times at the consulate websites and I have not seen a 6 month METV listed; Probably I'm just blind from all the different "stuff" I've been reading.

Would you be so kind to post a link? Thanks, dz
John **********
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@Tod ********
that’s kind of what I was thinking
Robert *******
Sorry, there are no cheapest options.

You apply for a visa that fits your purpose of stay or play games with Immigration and face the change of getting denied entry.

You're married, best option is to Single Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on being married before you make your walk to Thailand, get 90 days on entry and before this ends apply for the 60 days Extension of Stay based on family visit. 5 months covered.

After this:

1 year Extension of Stay from Immigration, only 1.900 Thb, but you need a Re-Entry Permit, single is 1.000 Thb.

Or

Border run to get a new 30 day Visa Exempt Entry and you can apply for 30 days Extension of Stay, same price 1.900 Thb

OR

Visit neighbor country like Savannakhet at apply for the 1 year Multiple Entry Non Immigrant O visa based on marriage but this visa cost 5.000 Thb.
George ******************
The easiest would probably go to Suvanakhet and apply for a non O multiple entry visa based on Marriage, no financials are required. However you do have to leave the country every 90 days, but you can do an out and in.
John **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@George *****************
since I’m not married yet, can I apply for a non-O,mev, over 50,there? Or are the requirements different?
Benjamin ******
1. What's a
*****
tourist visa? You mean a Single Entry Tourist Visa that's good for 60 days and allows extending by another 30 days at the local immigration office?

2. I believe one of the so-called "retirement" visas may be best for you. I am almost certain you can only get them in the USA, or convert your existing stamp at the local immigration office - IF there's enough time. You *MAY* need health insurance for this visa; depending on which one you select. If you go this route, I'll let others walk you through the process.

3. IF you are married to a Thai, one option is a one year Multiple Entry Non-O visa based on supporting a Thai wife. You can purchase that from Savannakhet or HCMC, Vietnam. At these two locations you do NOT need to show proof of finances, or proof of income, however you can only stay in Thailand for 90 days on each entry. You do not need health insurance for this visa. BUT if you go this route, make sure you love this lady, and you're ready for marriage.
John **********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Benjamin *****
yes to #1
Phil *****
F
Benjamin ******
? What do you mean by "F"?
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