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Can my retired parents apply for a retirement visa in Thailand without a state pension?
Retirement VisaNon-Immigrant O VisaVisa Application ProcessThailand ImmigrationPakistani Citizens in ThailandExpat Visa AdviceTourist Visa to Retirement Visa Conversion
Sep 9, 2025
8 months ago
Shazia ******
ORIGINAL POSTERHello, everyone, I need some advice or suggestions, please.
My parents are Pakistani Citizens, and I wish to apply for their retirement visa once they reach Thailand.
The issue is that I have been told to apply for a Non-Immigrant O visa and then, once they land in Thailand, convert to a Retirement Visa.
Here is the problem now, when I see the Thai Embassy site here, it says "Retirement (Pensioners aged 50 or above with state pension who wishes to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 Days)."
However, they do not get state pension. They have their own savings and retired individuals from private sector.
So, is it not possible to do tourist visa and then get an agent to convert to Non O and then retirement visa in Thailand.
Please suggestions would be highly appreciated thank you.
My parents are Pakistani Citizens, and I wish to apply for their retirement visa once they reach Thailand.
The issue is that I have been told to apply for a Non-Immigrant O visa and then, once they land in Thailand, convert to a Retirement Visa.
Here is the problem now, when I see the Thai Embassy site here, it says "Retirement (Pensioners aged 50 or above with state pension who wishes to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 Days)."
However, they do not get state pension. They have their own savings and retired individuals from private sector.
So, is it not possible to do tourist visa and then get an agent to convert to Non O and then retirement visa in Thailand.
Please suggestions would be highly appreciated thank you.
TLDR : Answer Summary
A user seeks advice on obtaining a retirement visa for their Pakistani parents, who are ineligible due to lacking a state pension. They were advised to apply for a Non-Immigrant O visa upon arrival in Thailand, then convert to a retirement visa. Comments indicate it's possible to apply for a tourist visa and later convert, highlighting that the necessary funds (800,000 baht) should be available in a Thai bank account. There are suggestions to consult visa agents for assistance.
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Yaqoob ************
Get a tourist visa, and change into retirement visa within living here.
I just got mine "non o". I am from karachi, pakistan.
I just got mine "non o". I am from karachi, pakistan.
Kaizad ***********
@Yaqoob ***********
do we have to show rental lease of 12 months at the time of applying for extension of O visa ? Is it mandatory or we can show hotel stay for few weeks or months. ThanksYaqoob ************
@Kaizad **********
i showed rental agreement. Not necessary that it should be for 12 month.Reply to
Yaqoob ************
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Shazia ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Yaqoob ***********
thank you and u did tourist then o then retirementYaqoob ************
@Shazia *****
if any query, can DM me. I already just completed my process.Yaqoob ************
@Shazia *****
i changed TR to non o (marriage visa). But your case is similar. Can get retirement visa as well. Process is same. If you will get non o (3month) visa from pakistan, it will be more better than TR visa.Reply to
Yaqoob ************
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Shazia ******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Yaqoob ***********
so I guess possible to do tourist to non o then retirement because that’s what I want for them and can I ask pls as to when u got it doneBrandon ************
@Shazia *****
This is all but impossible now with the banking changes, because tourists cannot open a bank account, and showing money in a Thai bank account is a requirement for converting to the non-O visa. Most embassies do not require a pension. They just require proof of income or proof of the 800,000 baht (or whatever the embassy's equivalent in local currency is) in a bank account.
Yaqoob ************
@Brandon ***********
i converted my TR visa to non o without open a bank account. After getting non o for 3 month, then i opened a bank account for deposit show money. Later, i converted into non o 1 year.Reply to
Yaqoob ************
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Yaqoob ************
@Shazia *****
i arrived here in February on TR visa, converted into non o(marriage visa). TR to Non o (3 month) and just changed into non o (1year) last week.Reply to
Yaqoob ************
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Frankie *******
Make sure u got $800,000 baht to show the immigration to be deposited in a thai bank
John **********
What is your situation? Do you live in Thailand and if so what sort of visa are you on?
Todd *********
Om ********************
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baht visa agent arrange everything for you even open bank account its all you need...Juha *******
@Om *******************
your agent is expensiveReply to
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Colin *******
Give Mark a call on 0960941132
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Graham ******
The Over 50 Visa is the 90 day Retirement Visa which will be needed to get bank accounts. When their 800k deposits are seasoned for 2 months they apply for their 12 month Extensions of Stay, not a Visa. No pension is needed at any stage. I assume that the Pakistan Embassy does not provide the income affidavit.
Mahmood *********
Yes possible if you are above 50 years you can get retirement visa
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