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Are DTV holders subject to income tax in Thailand if they stay more than 180 days?
⚠️ Will DTV holder be subjected to the income tax if we stay over 180 days?
I am asking because I am contemplating to say I am not working (though I am) but full time investor in stock market. I am concerned over the tax implications.
I am asking because I am contemplating to say I am not working (though I am) but full time investor in stock market. I am concerned over the tax implications.
Answer summary
If a DTV (Digital Nomad Visa) holder stays in Thailand for more than 180 days within a calendar year, they automatically become a tax resident and may be required to file a tax return if their assessed income exceeds 120,000 Thai Baht. The applicability of taxes depends on several factors, including the Double Taxation Agreement (DTA) between Thailand and their home country. While many community members suggest that DTV holders are seen as 'long-stay tourists' and may not be strictly pursued for tax compliance, the legal obligation to file exists. The advice varies widely, with some advocating consultation with tax professionals for clarity.
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Victor **********
Yes, you're subject to filing income tax as a resident, even if you don't have a Thai bank account and on a DTV. Depending on your country's DTA and your remitted income, you may not owe any taxes. Talk to a local Thai tax lawyer.
GrayWal********
Yes
Josh ********
Even on soft power you will probably have to provide proof you have a source of available liquid funds to support yourself. Stock investments don’t count. They asked me how I would support myself during the course.
Nick ************
Any savings you had before the end of 2024 are not taxable when remitted to thailand. Any money you used to buy a house is not taxable when the house is sold and the money remitted to thailand. You probably don't owe any tax but proving it is the problem.
Rhys ******
Book in a free consultation with expat tax Thailand, a lot easier than worrying and guessing. For me it was great as I was able to exit tax residency in Australia, foreign sourced income here so only pay on remittance, you can offset it against savings held prior to Jan 1st 2024 or against any other tax credits you already paid in that income year. For me if I was still paying tax back home I would just keep quiet and no point involving yourself with the revenue department but in my circumstances it’s a massive tax saving being here and the return is just for compliance more for my home country.
Locked ********
I pay the VAT. That's all I'm gonna pay.
Tore *********
Well that would be ill adviced. However Thailand has remittance based tax system, so only money you bring into Thailand is relevant. Anything you keep abroad isn't relevant for tax here. So its actually a very beneficial tax system for guys like us.
Don't know your previous country, but I got rid of wealth and capital; gains tax by moving tax residency top Thailand./
Don't know your previous country, but I got rid of wealth and capital; gains tax by moving tax residency top Thailand./
Bertrand ***************
Guys please, just use AI and you will know about remittance taxes for 180days+ DTV holders
This group is too stupid omg, use AI you’ll have the answer
This group is too stupid omg, use AI you’ll have the answer
Tore *********
@Bertrand **************
indeed, its getting bizarre. One even stated "No tax on DTV as its a tourist visa" Tf lolAnonymous ******************
No tax for DTV holders
As they view as a tourist visa. They want to tax the boomers on retirements visas
As they view as a tourist visa. They want to tax the boomers on retirements visas
GentleHa*********
Anonymous participant 584 this is not correct. Anyone staying over 180 days in Thailand does need to register for tax
Anonymous ******************
GentleHamster3563 I checked
With tax consultant they told me nobody interested in DTV holders because they are just viewed
As long stay tourists. Retirement and LTV people are going to generate tax income.
With tax consultant they told me nobody interested in DTV holders because they are just viewed
As long stay tourists. Retirement and LTV people are going to generate tax income.
GentleHa*********
Anonymous participant 584 I work as a tax accountant 😅 trust me, more than 180 days you become a tax resident for Thailand. They might not come chase you because they have other priorities, but you are a tax resident
Marianne ********
Anonymous participant 584 Wrong.
Visa has no relevance to your tax residency status after being here for 180 days or more during a calendar year.
Visa has no relevance to your tax residency status after being here for 180 days or more during a calendar year.
Anonymous ******************
@Marianne *******
no bank accounts for DTV holders so they can’t transfer money here. You can’t be taxed for foreign ATM withdrawals.Victor **********
Anonymous participant 584 Not having a Thai bank account doesn't exclude you from the tax obligation as a resident. They still accept payment in cash and QR scan.
Marianne ********
Anonymous participant 584 ATM withdrawals are remitted money, so is spending with your foreign cards.
Tore *********
Anonymous participant 584 why would you give advice on things you dont know?
Anonymous ******************
@Tore ********
they are not interested in the DTV people the younger crowd on average spend very well. They want to tax boomers.Tore *********
Anonymous participant 584 just stop and do some actual research, stop pulling stuff out of your hat lol. Visa type has ZERO influence on tax law
Sergio ******
Anonymous participant 584 I think it's legally asked after 180 days, that's why they want to get out each time
Anonymous ******************
@Sergio *****
nope they want the money from boomers
Sefton ********
Your visa type makes no difference, you can be tax liable on a visa exempt entry if you are over 180 in a cal year.
Your only potentially liable on income remitted. You may find you have a filing liability without a payment liability, that's common of you have dta protected taxed at source income.
It's worth pointing out the vast difference between the law and the reality. No one is chasing this, there's no real mechanism to control or ask for this, and guys like married or retirement visa holders wood be first in line to be controlled.
It is of course the law, but Thailand is a country of 1000s of laws, poorly and inconsistently applied.
Your only potentially liable on income remitted. You may find you have a filing liability without a payment liability, that's common of you have dta protected taxed at source income.
It's worth pointing out the vast difference between the law and the reality. No one is chasing this, there's no real mechanism to control or ask for this, and guys like married or retirement visa holders wood be first in line to be controlled.
It is of course the law, but Thailand is a country of 1000s of laws, poorly and inconsistently applied.
Fascinatin***********
No need to file anything nobody cares. Go to the tax office and request a tax number if you want too so bad. Cant even open a bank account you think they care about dtv holders ? Listen to the looney folk all you want. Not needed
Fascinatin***********
We cant open bank account us filing taxes is not a priority for dtv holders. Main reason why they make you leave for 6 months they dont want to deal with us.
Dave *********
FascinatingParrot1715 you sound like a nominee lawyer
Fascinatin***********
@Dave ********
Go be a good boy and head to tax officeDave *********
FascinatingParrot1715 jes sayin there are literally thousands of expats who arent sleeping at night because they followed the same short sighted advice you are giving.
Have you heard of AI? Thailand bought an AI system in 2024 and are training it on Thai corporation records. Thats how they are finding the nominee scam.
A 1st year computer student could right code showing how many days someone is in country by adding up the days of entry and departure on the immigration computers.
Have you heard of AI? Thailand bought an AI system in 2024 and are training it on Thai corporation records. Thats how they are finding the nominee scam.
A 1st year computer student could right code showing how many days someone is in country by adding up the days of entry and departure on the immigration computers.
GentleTu********
It’s only the income you remit to Thailand so if you make $1 million next year, but you only take $25,000 into Thailand that’s the potentially taxable amount if it wasn’t taxed already provided there’s a dual tax agreement with your country.
I’m not going to worry about a gd thing until someone tracks down the Gentle Turkey and says “hey man! you can’t stay here or face jail or fines or deportation unless you do xyz”
The burden is on the state. Prove to me what I remitted.
PS Very f n hard to do. I make atm withdrawals from my non-Thai bank. Nobody can know if that is income or savings or something else…
I’m not going to worry about a gd thing until someone tracks down the Gentle Turkey and says “hey man! you can’t stay here or face jail or fines or deportation unless you do xyz”
The burden is on the state. Prove to me what I remitted.
PS Very f n hard to do. I make atm withdrawals from my non-Thai bank. Nobody can know if that is income or savings or something else…
RedBlueb********
I'm assuming you have applied for soft power and workation...
It would be funny to claim to not be working on the workation pathway... HAHAHA
It would be funny to claim to not be working on the workation pathway... HAHAHA
Ian **********
My friend pays a tax consultant in Bangkok 7k baht a year to file his tax return. He is then told he has no tax liability because his only earnings are his government pension, which isn't taxable in Thailand under the DTA. :D
David ********
@Ian *********
what was his basis for applying for a dtv if he’s retired ?
Markus **********
Retired in Thailand is considered at the age of 50 years only. Retired in some countries require a 20 year obligation to draw your pension. For example .. I join the military at 16, retire at 36, move to Thailand but still not eligible for retirement visa because of age. But the government pension, and or disability is not taxable under Thai law.
If you stay over 180 days just file a Thai tax return and include your country tax file. Most likely there is nothing to pay! Unless you’re making money in Thailand ! Talk with Thai CPA for clarity
If you stay over 180 days just file a Thai tax return and include your country tax file. Most likely there is nothing to pay! Unless you’re making money in Thailand ! Talk with Thai CPA for clarity
Ian **********
David Rogers, who said he was retired? He only brings the equivalent of his pension onshore. He could also apply as soft power if he wanted to. Daft question.
Dany ********
yes. because you automatically become a tax resident if you spend more than 180 days in that calendar year in thailand… if you need to pay something depends on your own individual situation and the possible double taxation agreement.
Michael ******
Yes you will be
Relaxing********
Paying Tax in Thailand = contributing to officials mercedes Benz and watch collection
RedBlueb********
RelaxingFrog7053 no different to any other country, though... is it?
John **********
There's no straightforward answer to the tax question, everyone is going to be different. Basically if you spend 180 days or more inside Thailand in any calendar year then you are automatically a Thai tax resident in that year. If in that year you bring 120k baht or more of assessable income into Thailand then you must file a tax return. Whether you actually have to pay tax or not depends on a number of things such as tax already paid on that income elsewhere if a DTA exists between the 2 countries, Thai tax allowances and so on. The DTA also determines what is and isn't assessable income
Anonymous ******************
@John *********
how do you file a tax return without a valid TIN, I went to the revenue office and they declined me to issue a TIN on DTV visa even though I had a residence certificate from immigration. For Thais it's easy to track as their bank accounts are linked to their ID card, we don't have any ID card or bank accounts nor do we own any property we use foreign bank accounts to withdraw money.John **********
Anonymous participant 801 if you show you owe tax and want to pay they'll soon give you a TIN. Why should they give you one otherwise
John **********
Anonymous participant 801 when did you do this, during a tax filing period? Did you actually show that you may required to pay tax, not just that you may be tax resident?
Anonymous ******************
@John *********
ofc I said this to them they told me can't apply for TIN, they wanted a work permit or non immigrant visa or blue book for a condo.
DTV_Be*******
@John *********
question For the DTA do you still have to file or is it automatic?
It’s hard to find a solid answer
DTV_Be*******
@John *********
well I pay rent a phone bill ahd o have to eat food so I’m obviously over the ฿120k for the yearI guess I’ll have to pay taxes and tax number
Sefton ********
DTV_Begpacker Carl turner is one biased to very strict and full compliance.
Many offer the 'don't worry about it' style of advice.
Many offer the 'don't worry about it' style of advice.
DTV_Be*******
@John *********
I guess I need to talk to a tax specialist 2 CPA’s for 2 countries…I hate being part of the only country that does CBT
John **********
DTV_Begpacker filing a tax return doesn't necessarily mean you have any tax to pay, that's all going to be down to your personal circumstances
John **********
DTV_Begpacker I'm not sure I follow. If you bring 120k baht or more of assessable income into Thailand in any calendar year that you are tax resident then you are obliged to file a tax return in the 1st 3 months of the following year. The DTA is irrelevant to that really other than determining certain types of income that are not assessable income (principally certain types of pension income)
DTV_Be*******
@John *********
well I pay rent a phone bill ahd o have to eat food so I’m obviously over the ฿120k for the yearI guess I’ll have to pay taxes and tax number
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