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What defines a 'real tourist' in Thailand?

Jim *******
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Who is a real tourist in Thai?

Been to Thai 110 times since year 2000.

Never stayed longer than what then was 30 days visa exemption. Never extensions.

Never even knew that Thai Immigration even existed. Now, on Non O 1 year extension, I know.

We traveled around Thai, maybe 35,000 km rentacar. Travel, tourism

The hotels (maybe 50 of them) we had stayed at are still sending me (spamming) emails "Thank you for staying with us, we want to see you again". Their promotions and discounts.

That is is what a tourist is. Several times a year, some years 7-8 times.
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The discussion centers around the definition of a 'real tourist' in Thailand, prompted by one individual’s frequent visits (110 times) on a visa exemption basis. Contributors debate over what constitutes genuine tourism, contrasting experiences between frequent short-term visits versus long-term stays or expat living. Key arguments include perspectives on tourism metrics, immigration enforcement, and distinctions between being a tourist and a resident. Several comments reflect skepticism towards motivations behind long-term stay or implications of the poster's experiences, alongside general observations on Thailand's evolving visa policies and tourism landscape.
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Linda **********
Linda **********
There are no real tourists. There are only obvious western parasites and not so obvious western parasites
Bert *************
Bert *************
No . A tourist is what an immigration officer says a tourist is
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Bert ************
Thai IO can accertain who the real tourist is. Muddafukars trying to live in Thai on thin air and on visa exemptions.

Most of us here can tell that. My hat down to Thai Immigration officers.
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Bert ************
No. Do you think an IO goes deepy into the history of every one of 30 million visitors to Thai?

If there is a suspicion, it comes in red on their screens. Maybe one out of 50 thousand of visitors gets that kind of extra attention. Very rare, as rare is asking for 20K THB in cash. That happens when the IO is trying to find the least painful reason to deny entry to someone, already decided to kick them out of Thai.
Adam ******
Adam ******
Tell us you work in oil and gas without saying you work in oil and gas. 😁
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Adam *****
Not Oil&Gas, a large multinational IT. But frequent short visits, never exceeded 1 month, pattern similar to what O&G fellows do.
Mitchell *******
Mitchell *******
Anyone else trying to understand the point of this post?
Robert ********
Robert ********
@Mitchell ******
many of us don't have 9 to 5 conventional jobs and are free to travel as we please, it doesn't mean we are doing anything illegal, simply living a good life . And I for one don't spend my money on multinational hotels and resorts but rather I stay local and spend my hard earned I n the community.
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Robert *******
Is it not what tourists do? Spend money staying in hotels, rentacar, they have to eat and whatever they spend on whatever they want?

Spending around Thai or within a local community, makes no difference as the tourist money is spent within Thailand.

My condo in BKK, since june 2008, was the place where we come, unpack, get some sleep after the flight and go travel around Thai. Been everywhere in Thai with my Thai wife and our daughter.

Say, out of 30 days (that is what visa exempt for me was) we would spend in our condo first 2 and last 2 days.

Extensive travel around Thai, hardly a place we have not visited and even staid in in their hotels, 30,000 kms around Thai.

Then all fly out. And come again, like that.

Now, on Non O 1 year extension, in Thai, in my condo, I hardly know, nor my Thai wife can conjure up some trip to somewhere we had not been to already, we have travelled to everywhere within Thai.

Not a tourist any more. Non O 1 year extension of stay. "A proper visa" our Mods would say.
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Mitchell ******
All over the place. Those trying to live in Thai and saying "Been to Thai 2 times in 2025 with 2 extensions would I be declined next entry".
Polat *******
Polat *******
Very impressive, mate. Not the post itself—just the fact that you think being a tourist is something worth bragging about.
Eryk ************
Eryk ************
Thomas ********
Thomas ********
you should write a book bro ;)
Spicy******
Spicy******
A real tourist can't handle more than one chili 🌶️
Bob **********
Bob **********
What’s your point ??
Oo *****
Oo *****
Good for you . Have fun.
Art ************
Art ************
I'm not sure what your point is?
James ********
James ********
@Art ***********
maybe he's just bragging?
Chizel *******
Chizel *******
Tourists don't usually buy condos, have pink cards or yellow books etc.
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Chizel ******
I bought a condo for family to live in before they joined me out of Thai.

My company was sending me to Singapore, Hong Kong, for months and months. That is how I went to Thai as a tourist every second weekend and public holidays. And twice a year 2 weeks up to a month.

Yellow Book, Pink Card Driving Licence - that came now, that I am retired and on Non O 1 year extension.

Now I am not a tourist any more and did what you can read here 1000s of times - got a proper visa.
Frank ******
Frank ******
Your point?????
Juliana **********
Juliana **********
A real tourist is someone who comes to Thailand to travel, explore, and enjoy the country, then leaves within the permitted stay often returning again and again over the years. Multiple short visits, no overstays, no extensions, just genuine tourism. The rules and labels may change, but the spirit of tourism hasn’t. For more insight on visas, travel patterns, and how immigration views them today, it’s worth checking out Landscape for practical tips.
Frank **********
Frank **********
My hero.
Christopher **********
Christopher **********
“Never even knew that Thai Immigration even existed” - this statement after 110 visits to Thailand probably excludes you as a real tourist. Real tourists enter a country through immigration control points (such as official land border crossings, airports, seaports) and will have encountered Thai Immigration. So, if this is not the case, one of two things is likely:

- your entries into Thailand were uncontrolled border crossings, as in brief crossings from a bordering country

- you intentionally avoided immigration and illegally entered the country without a visa and without being granted visa exempt entry officially
Jim *******
Jim *******
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Through the bush?

I did not know of Immigration as in the context of this site - Immigration offices, visas, documents, photocopies, extensions, border runs, rules dodging.
Farang *********
Farang *********
Is this to visit your 1 friend.

I am beginning to wonder how many if these posts are genuine
Marty *********
Marty *********
First, today is not yesterday, last year, or 20 years ago. Today Thailand is fighting money laundering, scam centers, and a shooting border conflict. Today’s restrictions on tourist travel reflects today’s national Thai issues. And for the most part, they are not changes in the immigration rules and policies but stricter enforcement of existing rules.

Second, from Thailand’s perspective a tourist is what they say a tourist is. Countries have borders and they decide who can come and go and how and when and for how long. Thailand’s experience is that the average tourist stays 8-10 days. Maybe western tourists stay 2-3 weeks as you have done. 70% of tourists spend less than 30 days per year and the vast majority less than 60 days. And those tourists, in numbers and spending, are the ones Thailand pays attention to.

Westerners constantly complain about their own country’s immigration policies. It’s ironic that they would complain about Thailand actually enforcing their policies.
Jim *******
Jim *******
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It is a common knowledge. Did we have to chew through your bed sheet size AI post?
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
@Jim ******
Karen do
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Marty ********
absolutely well said!
Matthew *********
Matthew *********
@Marty ********
and it's usually hi as nothing to do with farangs
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
8 times a year? Are you from Vietnam?
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Steve **********
Australian I am.
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Steve **********
does his name look like Vietnamese?
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
@Colin ********
no, it's a joke, 8 long distance flights???
Tony ********
Tony ********
Steve ***********
Steve ***********
@Jim ******
appreciate normal conversation
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Steve **********
5 hours flight from Japan.
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Steve **********
if one has the freedom and money to do so, why not?
Dirk **************
Dirk **************
What is the point of your post?
Matt ************
Matt ************
Yep. You win the Thai tourist Olympics. 😎
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Matt ***********
I am not a muddafuker trying to live in Thai on thin air and support a prostitute from Pattaya who dragged me into Thai shithole and her kids from unknown fathers.
Matt ************
Matt ************
Good Jim. That does not sound like much fun to me either.
Gordon ************
Gordon ************
The beasts and the monsters, visit regularly too!
Dave *****
Dave *****
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Lee ***********
Lee ***********
Wanker
Lee ***********
Lee ***********
110 times. 55 countries probably. What a guy. Salute this man.
Jack *****
Jack *****
What a, hero. Nonsense post
Matthew *********
Matthew *********
@Jack ****
sound like a bitter jealous man to have to make a comment
ArticulateC***********
ArticulateC***********
Huh? Your post is nonsensical
Artem *********
Artem *********
Imagine...You come once train muay thai. Decide to buy scooter and explore,go to Laos, come back,modify bike in bangkok go tk chiang mai and so on
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Artem ********
what's your point?
Artem *********
Artem *********
@Colin ********
Answer to the authors question who is a real tourist.
Jim *******
Jim *******
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@Colin ********
You are talking visa exempt that I hever maxed. No extensions, ever.
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Artem ********
that's only some activities, that anyone can do. People on long term Visas can do those things too. It doesn't explain anything about length of holidays in Thailand, how often or whether A Tourist Visa was purchased or arrival on Visa Exempt
Lynnette *******
Lynnette *******
Are you asking a question? People can travel to Thailand often as tourists. Nothing has really changed.
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
The real tourist is the one who travels every country, not just the one who travels to thailand , don't forget that.
Robert ********
Robert ********
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
@Robert *******
There cannot be a tourist who goes to a country 120 times in 10 years But if you think it could be you, keep thinking, you are the biggest tourist, think about going to the next time 200 times in 10 years, but only to thailand country.
Robert ********
Robert ********
@Ozan ******
how do you know he has been nowhere else?
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
@Robert *******
good ,but the commenter only thilnta has come 120 Def in 10 years, he hasn't visited anywhere else, do you think this is man is a tourist?
Robert ********
Robert ********
@Ozan ******
I have been to more than 30 countries in 20 years . Thailand probably 50 times
Tania **********
Tania **********
@Ozan ******
We are able to to live as tourist , i am sorry 😉
Mark *************************
Mark *************************
@Ozan ******
your comment is as dumb as you look.
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
Mark *************************
Mark *************************
@Ozan ******
if you travel to any other country besides your own country, you are a tourist. The end.
GiftedF*******
GiftedF*******
@Ozan ******
what a stupid comment.
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
GiftedFish5406 The comment seems meaningless to you because you don't have a brain
Jared ********
Jared ********
@Ozan ******
A tourist is literally a person travelling or visiting a place for enjoyment. So no.
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
@Jared *******
I say that a person who visits a place 180 times is not called a tourist
David ********
David ********
@Ozan ******
I agree, I travelled many countries
Colin *********
Colin *********
@Jared *******
you're fine with your entry history that you've described. If the country you're from (passport country) is entitled to Visa Exempt entries, then you don't need to purchase a Visa from an Embassy. Forget what the Embassy said. They cannot get their words correct and they obviously don't check the meaning of some of their words. When they said "Exemptions" they either used the wrong word, or don't know the facts. What has changed, as of November this year, is that "Extensions" are limited to 2 in a year, not a calendar year, but two in a twelve month period. So, if you visited in January this year, stayed the full sixty days on A Visa Exempt entry and extended that for thirty days at an Immigration Office, then returned later during this year and stayed sixty days, plus applied for an Extension again, they would only grant a seven day Extension. If then you visited a year after your January 2025 entry, you could, if you wanted to, get a thirty day Extension again in January 2026. That's the understanding of the guidelines announced by a Senior Immigration Officer last month that all Immigration Officers must follow.

There's no maximum of Visa Exempt entries. As long as Immigration see your history of stamps in your passport and on their computers and determine that you are a genuine tourist, you can enter multiple times in a year - if you're staying a few days or up to the sixty days there shouldn't be any issues. The problem comes when they suspect that you're 'playing' the system with the intention to either live or work in the country. As is the case and always has been (same in any country), the Immigration Officer that you stand in front of, can use their discretion as to who is allowed in and who is refused entry. They're seemingly not consistent either. A post, I'm sure in this group over the past few days, one guy commenting said that he was refused entry, even though, I think he said, hadn't had multiple entries that would raise suspicion and no Extensions. True or not, we can only take his word for it.
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
@Tania *********
yes you are tourist ,You are the best tourist in the world, you are the queen
Tania **********
Tania **********
@Ozan ******
We are Tourists Yes !!

We go whatever we wish , we have financial security and what you affrirm keep for yourself : your life, your way etc… we are Tourists, yes !
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
@Tania *********
If you have visited a single country 100 times in 10 years, you are not a tourist, besides (I came for my wife) what did he write, don't be disturbed by the facts.
Tania **********
Tania **********
@Ozan ******
I am part of this group ; we comment about the post , your comment is not accurate, think well before comment.
Ozan *******
Ozan *******
@Tania *********
Did I write my post specifically for you? Take a look.
Tania **********
Tania **********
@Ozan ******
We are many visiting Countries ,as a tourist, as many times we wish and can afford !
Darren *******
Darren *******
@Jared *******
ignore the embassies, they are under a separate department than Immigration so they're not linked together at all.
Jared ********
Jared ********
@Darren ******
yeah that's what I've been told. But an rfi from embassy they now told me it's a limited of 2 exemptions even for legitimate tourism.. so it's a bit confusing.
Darren *******
Darren *******
@Jared *******
no you don't, visa exemptions are fine in your case. I've entered Thailand 8 times this year, longest stay probably being about a week, often only 2 or 3 nights. I entered on Christmas night, no issues, no questions asked. It's to stop people living on back to back exemptions and extensions and not people in your situation.
Jared ********
Jared ********
@Ozan ******
I've been to thailand 16 times. I speak thai, my trips are normally 2 weeks. Stayed for a month 1 time. What Visa do you recommend I get?
Jared ********
Jared ********
@Ozan ******
that's a clearer statement. I go to thailand about 60 days a year to see my partner, I take 4 trips and work in Australia. This year I think ill have to get the metv just to take 4, 2 week trips.

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