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What are the best practices for withdrawing cash from a US bank in Thailand using a debit card?

Jair ******
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To pull cash from my US bank, I was planning up hitting an ATM (in Pattaya) with my Schwab Debit card, I know Schwab refunds ATM fees. Not sure of FX conversion rate or any options I can pick to get a reasonable rate and not get screwed. Thoughts?

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UPDATE: My Schwab card didn't work at the Bangkok Bank ATM for some reason so I ended up using my Wells Fargo Card. I refused the ATMs conversion offer (and gave it a gentle but firm kick..one for the team :-0..out of the camera's sight).

Withdrawal: 25,000 Bhat

ATM Fee: 250 Bhat

Total: 25,250 Bhat

Welle Fargo Charge: 782.22

Exchange Rate: 32.28

Not terrible!UPDATE
Answer summary
This thread discusses strategies for withdrawing cash in Thailand using US debit cards, primarily focusing on the Schwab and Wells Fargo cards. Users share experiences highlighting the importance of rejecting ATM conversion rates in favor of local currency transactions to secure better exchange rates. The conversation also touches on bank fees, the potential tax implications of different withdrawal methods, and the effectiveness of the Schwab card, which reimburses ATM fees. Users advise caution with ATM operations and share additional options for accessing funds, including bank teller withdrawals and international wire transfers.
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Mark *********
Mark *********
Who cares
Shawn ********
Shawn ********
I've taken my debit card to a Thai bank and had them do the transfer, but you will have to pay the conversion fee when you do this (good for large amounts) At the ATM I always choose "do not convert" and my bank refunds me for the ATM fee. I just setup Wise to transfer a large amount for my Non-O funds, the fee was USD $115. It just went through, so I'm not sure yet if my bank will refund any of those fees. Took three days BTW.
Ron **********
Ron **********
Fidelity Debit Card reimburses atm fees too.
Jamie *********
Jamie *********
I called Charles Schwab and they suggested withdrawing 10,000 baht 3x for a total of 30,000 baht allowable per day.

The 750 ATM fees will be reimbursed.
Chris *********
Chris *********
You know you can walk into the bank go to the teller and take your money out with no atm fee....
Jair ******
Jair ******
OP
Chris Simmons why would a bank teller give you cash from an unaffiliated US bank. Seems unlikely; have you tried this? At what bank and from what overseas bank debit card?
Chris *********
Chris *********
Jair Shek doesn't need to be a us bank. I do a few times a year using my credit card. They have card readers at the teller. The reason you do this is cause the atm has a limit at the teller there is no limit.
Rick ****
Rick ****
You might need to put a travel notice on your card. You can do it in the Schwab app or call customer service. The rate is visa’s closing rate the previous day. You can look it up on their website. If the USD drops since the close, you will get a better rate than the current rate!
Alan **********
Alan **********
What's that "Welle Fargo Charge: 782.22 (Baht)" ???

Is that the 3% foreign exchange conversion fee WF charges ?

Back to trying the Schwab card - 0 foreign conversion fee.
Jair ******
Jair ******
OP
Alan Rothwell $. Conversion to USD.
Leonard ***********************
Leonard ***********************
Next time do yourself a favor bring the cash with you and open up a Thai bank account you can transfer funds from the US to your Thai bank account My First Fidelity account which is not the greatest one they charge $60 for international wires if you're going to wire a large sums of money but MoneyGram is another option you could utilize they only charge a dollar 99
Mike *******
Mike *******
Mike *******
Mike *******
Jay *******
Jay *******
Do not take the ATM conversion. My Schwab card has worked fine for the last year, try another ATM
Yaoyu ***********
Yaoyu ***********
I'm very happy with my schwab debit card, back in the States、Taiwan、Paris、and Bangkok ! 😃
Mike *******
Mike *******
Schwab card is better that the wise card and you also get a very good conversion rate. You don’t pay anything for the card and get all your fees back. I find it much better than wise
Dino ***********
Dino ***********
Mike Maday you get the fee back from the Thai bank? I will be amazed if you do
Mike *******
Mike *******
Dino Di Marco I get reimbursed from ANY ATM around the world. They reimburse me on all ATM fees at the end of the month
Bill *********
Bill *********
Mike Maday Should there ever be a problem, you'll be able to get a live person within seconds with Schwab.
John *************
John *************
The only/main risk of resident expats here (as opposed to short-term tourists) relying too much on the Schwab and/or Fidelity cards is that if you're an ongoing resident here and doing, for instance, regular monthly foreign withdrawals on those ATM cards, at some point, Schwab or Fidelity (more likely Fidelity) might come knocking asking whether you're really still "living" in the U.S. and thus remaining eligible to have their U.S.-based accounts. Fidelity in the past has in fact purged various of its accountholders that it determined to be residing abroad and no longer eligible for its accounts.
James ****************
James ****************
John F Chandler yes this is an issue. I worked at both firms for 20 years. They will close you down.
John *************
John *************
James Vanvalkenburgh It's not an automatic thing, but it is a potential risk. Thus IMHO, people should certainly avoid doing things that make them look like they're actually living outside the U.S.
Victor **********
Victor **********
John F Chandler This shouldn't be an issue, as long as you maintain a valid US address.
John *************
John *************
Victor Rothhaas I agree. Maintaining some form of valid U.S. residential address is an important thing for American expats, in terms of helping avoid problems with their FIs.

However, even with a valid address, an FI COULD look at your use pattern (e.g. recurring and exclusively foreign transactions, and start challenging the account holder. Again, as I mentioned above, more likely Fidelity than Schwab.

That said, the one thing, IMHO, no U.S. expat should ever do is report/register their Thailand address as a home address for their U.S. accounts. That's just asking for trouble.
Victor **********
Victor **********
John F Chandler Yeah, the key is to notify your bank that your "slow traveling abroad." Telling them you're "moving" or "living" there is not recommended.
John *************
John *************
Example with Fidelity...
John *************
John *************
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John *************
John *************
There's another difference between the ATM w/ds vs. wire transfers approach to accessing foreign funds, and that's the potential Thai TAX implications.

Nowadays, the Thai Rev Department is monitoring foreign fund remittances via wires as potentially Thai taxable transactions, for those who stay in Thailand at least half of the calendar year. Supposedly, anything totaling more than 1 million THB during the year.

Thus far at least, there's no indication that they're actively tracking ATM withdrawals as potentially taxable foreign fund remittances, and not even clear that they really have the ability to do so effectively, since the U.S. isn't part of their broader CMS financial data sharing regime.

So with Schwab and Fidelity cards, not only are you getting the full VISA exchange rate and the Thai bank ATM fees reimbursed, but you're also creating less potential Thai tax exposure compared to doing monthly or other periodic foreign wire transfers that the banks and TRD do track for potential Thai tax liability.
Lloyd ****
Lloyd ****
John F Chandler interesting. If you have a Thai bank account and you use wise to transfer money to it is that a better option than using your Schwab card at a atm to withdraw money
John *************
John *************
The main downside of the Schwab-Fidelity ATM method vs. the traditional wire transfers method is the maximum 30,000 THB per Thai ATM withdrawal limit. If someone needs a larger sum of money, including for such things as a Thai condo purchase, then wire transfers as a practical matter before more appealing, even if not a better financial deal. No one, IMHO, is likely to want to be be funding an 800,000 THB retirement visa/extension deposit in a Thai bank with 30K per withdrawal ATM pulls. And condo purchase funds require a Thai bank paperwork certification that only can come from an intl wire transfer, not a mass of ATM withdrawals and ensuing cash deposits here.
John *************
John *************
My past calculations have shown that a Schwab VISA card withdrawal here in Thailand, which the Thai bank ATMs cap at 30,000 baht per withdrawal at the highest amount banks, is the most economical way available to move funds from the U.S. to TH. Better than wire transfers, better than Wise.
Bent *************
Bent *************
Choose ” no conversion ”
Jonathan **********
Jonathan **********
You have to accept the international fee, which Scwab refunds you. The next question will ask if you want to accept the conversion rate. Hit the NO button to proceed. The bank then gives you your money and the conversion rate is somewhere between the Thai’s aweful rate offered and the Visa rate reported by XE. I’ve found the difference to be consistently $11-12. On 20,000 baht or $600.00
Paul *******
Paul *******
Take your card and passport to a fx booth or bank and get a cash advance. no fee's. I never understand why people do not do this them post regarding ATM fee's.
Roger **********
Roger **********
Paul Jones You can only do this with a credit card, not a debit card.
Tom ****************
Tom ****************
I THOUGHT DEBIT ONLY IS THAT TRUE? OR CAN YOU USE A CREDIT CARD AND GET A CASH ADVANCE AND I THINK CREDIT CARD CHARGES CASH ADVANCE FEES.
Paul *******
Paul *******
Roger Blaylock Really, ive not done it for some time. So use a credit card then and pay it off from your current account.
Doug ******
Doug ******
ATMs will give you the current international exchange rate. Just be sure to DECLINE the conversion offered by the ATM which is not a good rate.
Krystian ******
Krystian ******
Wise card
De *****
De *****
Krystian Siek This is far worse than using a Schwab debit card where ATM fees will be refunded
Dino ***********
Dino ***********
De Vin you will pay the 250 BAHT fee still because that is a Thai bank fee nothing to do with the US
Jair ******
Jair ******
OP
Krystian Siek Exactly how does a Wise Card work?
Krystian ******
Krystian ******
Jair Shek wise.com
Paul *******
Paul *******
Krystian Siek Still pay withdrawal fee
Pe ****
Pe ****
Use ATMs at a (Kungsri) bank if you can. Then if the machine swallows your card and doesn’t return it, you can get the bank to open up the machine.

FYI. I didn’t take my own advice and used the Kungsri ATM on Beach Rd, somewhere near Soi
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I think 2025. The card was compromised at that ATM. I called Schwab and they cancelled the card.

Luckily I remembered to take A SECOND DEBIT CARD.
Tony *********
Tony *********
@Pe ***
Learned the hard way to always pull my card prior to taking cash. Had a machine near Chinatown train station swallow my card. Fortunately bank staff was still on hand to retrieve my card from the inside of the ATM. A second debit card is a good idea.
Peter *********
Peter *********
I transfer monthly US$2400 cash pick up using western union

Received b32 per dollar today

Cost of transfer $15
Loma ******
Loma ******
Exchange rate is set by VISA
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Deline Currency Conversion at ATM.
Loma ******
Loma ******
Set Bank Fee to 0% (default setting is 2%).
Leroy *******
Leroy *******
Never never never accept the conversion rate.

Take your time + read that screen, can be confusing at first.

Also...WAIT FOR YOUR CARD.

Last thing at an ATM here is give u card back. REMEMBER THIS!!
Denis *****
Denis *****
I have used this card many times on several trips to Thailand. Always continue without conversion. The rate you'd get from Schwab is always excellent and always way better than if you choose conversion from local ATM. However, I have started using Fidelity cash management ATM card now. Same benefits as Schwab with unlimited ATM fee rebate, plus even better conversion rate.
John *******
John *******
Denis Wng are you sure that the exchange rate is different between those two cards? They both are on Visa's network.
Denis *****
Denis *****
They are different based on my experience in Bangkok. I had withdrawal the same amount on the same date, and there were differences. However, differences were indeed very minor.
Sotorn ************
Sotorn ************
Denis Wng i have both and one thing I found is that the sweep account in Schwab. It's only if you move money back over to the Brokerage side which is a hassle. However, the sweep account in Fidelity allows direct SPAXX. Letting you get way better sitting cash interest rate without movement hassles.
Denis *****
Denis *****
Sotorn Muangmanee Agree, that's why I am also using it as my main checking account.
Marcus ***************
Marcus ***************
Denis Wng is the conversion fee good enough that I should consider switching from Charles Schwab?
Denis *****
Denis *****
In Fidelity, go to "debit card management", you should be able to see your ATM rebate there..
John *********
John *********
With Fidelity when I look at my bank statement I do not see the ATM rebate as I do with Schawb. Is it built in the transaction as you noted? I bring both cards just in case one doesn't work. For some reasons the Schwab card will not work but wait a day and it usually works again.
John *******
John *******
John Garscia it usually takes 2 or 3 days after the transaction for Fidelity to post the refund of the ATM fee.
James **********
James **********
Denis *****
Denis *****
It's minor. If you are happy with Schwab, then I really don't think it's worth your time to switch just for the conversion rate. I also use Fidelity as a regular checking account, so it makes more sense for me to just keep most of my spending money all in one account. Also, another minor difference is that fidelity will rebate your ATM right after each transcation, where Schwab will do it once for all at the end of the month.
Steven *********
Steven *********
Select continue without conversion
Cary ******
Cary ******
Also remember to take your card. They give the receipt first and it’s easy to walk away without your card.
Jim ********
Jim ********
Cary Dean Lost many cards in my early days of visiting Thailand 😂
Vincent ***********
Vincent ***********
You have to stop loaning them to the bar girls.

I hate same problem.

555
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
The ATM will offer to do the conversion for you and allow you to withdraw in USD. Reject it. You want to be charged the transaction in baht. Same goes if you ever use a credit card anywhere and they offer to charge you in USD. Always reject it and accept the baht charge. They offer horrendous conversion rates.

Do be careful though, some of the ATMs use very confusing wording so you think you are rejecting it when you hit "No" but you are actually accepting the conversion. So just read it before you choose the option.
Alan **********
Alan **********
@Brandon ***********
I believe they ask you something like "Do you wish to use the bank's conversion (or "our conversion" ?)", and "Yes" would be one's normal(?) reaction.

Which, in this case, is WRONG, so one needs to hit the "No" and let the system (M/C or Visa) do the conversion, which is the BETTER conversion.
Tom *******
Tom *******
@Brandon ***********
the way the ATM withdraw process works is indeed very sleazy. It's set up to try and trick you. Despicable but not unexpected.

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