Is it sensible to enter Thailand on a tourist visa and then apply for a retirement visa while in the country?

Feb 16, 2021
4 years ago
Tod *********
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Mark Kellin asked (in a post I deleted and then posted for him after messaging him):

Hello, sorry if this has been asked a lot here. I am moving to Chang Mai in July. Seems like dealing with the Embassy is kind of a pain.

Retirement Visa questions...

50 yo American ex military with proof of income but no 800000 baht deposit.

I am thinking about coming on a tourist Visa and obtaining retirement O Visa when I am there. Is this a sensible approach?
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Mark Kellin is considering moving to Chiang Mai and is inquiring about the process of obtaining a retirement visa as an American ex-military individual. He is currently thinking about entering Thailand on a tourist visa and transitioning to a retirement (O) visa while in the country. Comments indicate that showing proof of income from abroad for a Non-O visa can be problematic and suggest that he might be better off obtaining a Non-Immigrant Type O-A visa from a Thai consulate in the US prior to his arrival, which would allow him to use his US income to meet necessary proof of funds.
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Tod *********
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Honestly your best bet would be to get a year long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa from the thai consulate in the US before you wing your way here. That way you can use your income in the US to meet the proof of funds. When you get that visa and enter the country you will be stamped in for a whole year (or as long as your health insurance is valid for up to a year)

You want the O-A visa from here:

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/30/nonimmigrantoaox/
Dirk **************
@Tod ********
better get it in country. Much easier!
Tod *********
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@Dirk *************
you can't get an OA visa in country AND its a pretty straight forward process to get one before you come here.

Comin' on a tourist visa or visa exempt, transferring in the 800K baht (because the O/P can't use monthly transfers to get the Non-O visa or the year extension because he doesn't have enough months of transfers) applying for the Non-O visa, waiting the under consideration period, getting it inked in waiting until your funds are seasoned and then going back to apply for the yearly extension is not as easy as getting an O-A visa in your country before you come here
Tod *********
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@Dirk *************
please READ what I posted

You didn't get an O-A visa <- that can only be gotten in your country before you wing your way here.

You might have indeed came in on a tourist visa, went to Chaengwattana and applied in Section C-1 for a 90 day Non-Immigrant Type O visa <- note there is no A after the O ;) You met the requirements, paid 2000baht and went back 14 days later like your receipt said do and they stamped a Non-O visa and a new 90 day stamp into your pasport.

BUT in order to do that, you had to show proof of funds HERE not in your country
Dirk **************
@Tod ********
my apologies. I missed that part.
Tod *********
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@Di**
you are totally correct, you CAN INDEED apply for a 90 day Non-O visa inside the country at the immigration office without much problem if you meet the requirements :)
Tod *********
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as an american there is no way you can show "proof of income" that will be accepted here at the immigration office to get a Non-O visa or a year extension. The US consulate hasn't issued income from abroad notary documents since Dec 31st 2018 :O

That means you have two ways to meet the proof of funds to get a "retirement visa" inside the country you bank 800K baht in a thai bank account in your name only for 2 months before you apply for the year extension

OR

You transfer IN to the country in a thai bank account in your name only from abroad a minimum of 65K baht a month each month every month for the preceding 12 months before you apply for your extension.
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