Hi wondering if you have a retirement visa ( multiple entry ) could you still come and go to stay under the 180 days ( say 3 month each time ) not ready to stay full time and the tax implications are big atm , 🤔
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Yes, you can maintain your Thai retirement visa (multiple entry) while staying less than 180 days in total over a calendar year. As long as you adhere to visa renewal requirements and obtain a re-entry permit before exiting Thailand, your visa remains valid regardless of the duration of your individual stays. There are generally no tax implications unless you qualify as a tax resident by being in Thailand for 180 days or more within a year.
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Amazing how many people cannot answer a simple question. Yes you can stay under 180 days, it doesn’t matter 1 day or 365 days. Each entry you are stamped upto the end of your visa.
I think the taxation of foreigners in Thailand is not realated to visas, per-se, but income and residency status, defined by Thailand Revenue Dept. Of course there are the regulation we must follow on work and ed type visas and the no-work restrictions on the retirement visas. However, if you are in-country for 180 days or more in a calandar year (a tax resident), you are legally required to submit a tax return, through which your foreign income brought to Thai;and and any domestic income (eg. bank interest) will be assessed and tax amount calculated for your payment. It used to be income sourced in Thailand or paid by and Thailand branch of an overseas company - I expect this is still within the regulation, with the 180-days definition added to it. Remember also, Thailand has tax treaty/double taxation agreements with several countries globally, which comes into play for income tax paid monies from such places as Australia and UK. If you have a registration on a residence, you might (as I did) also get a local government bill for a land/residence tax.
Ole Kristoffersen it really depends from country to country. In your case it is specifically between Norway and Thailand. But other countries are different, also depending on how the income was earned.
So it is NOT always a benefit to stay over 180 days.
My understanding is that you become a tax resident once you have been in country 180 days in a calendar year. They do not have to be 180 consecutive days. Just a total of 180 days in country in any calander year. Once you have attained that status, even if you do not stay 180 days the next year, the status continues, I was told. Have not confirmed this. I realize you have said you understand and are in compliance with taxes here. Just adding this in case it will help someone. I talked with the government when I had a retirement visa I obtained when I was in country and they explained this clearly. They said I could come and go as I wanted on a multiple entry retirement visa during the time it was valid. Still have to do the only reentry card each time when returning. I have transitioned to an LTR visa which is also multiple entry. That visa mitigates the income tax issue nicely but I still have to file. It does not impact VAT or property tax (I own a house on land belonging to my wife and we are filing a superfices), if that is an issue.
The question is about the Retirement Visa , do you have to stay longer than 180 days per year to keep it valid , that’s the question I am 100% across the tax laws and will comply it’s the Visa that I’m not sure about and no one can answer ?
BeautifulBee8997 you could stay one day per year and it's still valid as long as you meet the renewal criteria which usually includes showing a lease on a dwelling Etc they don't care how long you stay or don't stay
Trevor Ratcliffe AIui, if you already have the retirement "permission to stay", so long as you get a "re-entry permit" before you exit Thailand, you can re-enter legally with only the permit.
You will have to watch your dates so you're IN Thailand when you need to renew your permission to stay.
Trevor Ratcliffe yes at renewal or obtain additional entry stamp each time before leaving after using single entry stamp included with your original visa.
There are no tax implications unless you plan to work in Thailand, which you cannot do under a retirement visa.
Edit: or, you remit salary from the current year to Thailand.
I live off investments and investment income accrued pre 2024.
The people who tell you there are tax implications are largely foreign tax stamp pimps who are trying to make money off you so they can afford to stay in Thailand.
FYI giving tax advice is also a prohibited profession for foreigners in Thailand.
Brook Powers a retirement visa does NOT prohibit you from working abroad. A retirement visa does NOT prohibit you from earning passive income abroad and remit into Thailand.
Alan Rothwell "Subject to" doesn't mean you are liable for taxes in Thailand. I have dual tax residency and as such my DTA determines where I actually pay tax
I wonder what tax implications? I've lived here 16 years, never paid a single baht here. I bring in around 85-100k each month. You are aware it's 180 days in a calendar year which can deem you a tax resident (although depending on your own situation, you may still not need to pay tax).
Stephen Howell just because you didn't pay a single baht, doesn't mean you didn't have to pay.
I don't understand your logic.
It could be that your remitted moneybwasn't assessable. It could also be that according to tax law you'd have to pay hundsreds of thousands of baht which you just didn't declare and got away with it - until now.
You haven't said what you ACTUALLY have, so I'll list what you COULD have.
If you have a 1-year non-OA visa from a Thai embassy, you can come and go as you please. Every time you enter until the expiration date on the visa, you'll be stamped in for 1-year, or until the expiration of your mandatory insurance policy. If your 1-year entry stamp goes beyond the validity of the visa, you'll need a re-entry permit if you want to leave and return again. After that you'll need to go home and purchase a new non-OA visa to repeat the process.
If you're on a 1-year extension of stay based on your original 90-day non-O visa, then you need to purchase a re-entry permit to be able to leave and not cancel your extension. You'll need to be back in Thailand before your extension expires in order to apply for the next annual extension.
BeautifulBee8997 Retirement visas are O, OA, OX, LTR. These are specific "retirement visas" all with different criteria. Some retirees also opt for Privilege Visa or DTV.
So saying "retirement visa" leaves a lot open to different interpretations
BeautifulBee8997 And what does that mean? The non-OA is a retirement visa. The non-O is a retirement visa. Many people incorrectly call a retirement extension a retirement visa. So you still haven't said what you actually have. There are at least 3 other types of visas that are specifically called "retirement visa" as well.
BeautifulBee8997 they can’t enforce Thais to pay only 7% pay tax so yea go throw yourself under the bus but check your countries treaties with Thailand
a question please to you. I apply for the retirement -0 visa but they also ask for the flight back in the application! But i stay in Thailand. I it necessary to do this in the application? ( How to handle this ) Thank you 🙏