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Can TransferWise be used to send USD to Thai bank accounts and what are the associated costs?

Ivan ************
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On the TransferWise topic that was closed. TransferWise now supports sending US dollars to USD denominated accounts in countries outside the US, including Thailand. The cost for this is quite low- $3.20, which is probably less than your bank charges. You could use this to send to a USD FCD account in Thailand. It goes through the SWIFT network so should appear as a regular international transfer whichever bank you use. I haven't tried it, but I suspect it MAY also work sending to a THB denominated account, in which case your Thai bank would automatically do the conversion on arrival, this is what happens with regular USD SWIFT transfers to a THB account.
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TransferWise now supports sending US dollars to USD accounts in Thailand for a low fee of $3.20. This method can be useful for retirees or expats needing to transfer money monthly to meet visa requirements, such as the 65,000 Baht needed each month for retirement extension. While it eases the transfer costs compared to traditional bank wires, users may face challenges if sending USD to THB accounts due to banks potentially imposing unfavorable terms. The conversation also highlights that, while direct deposits are possible for pensions, there are no requirements to move all assets into Thailand.
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Tod *********
Tod *********
and this is NOT a thai VISA related question. There are tons of threads on the interweb in forums and various f/b groups about moving money here to meet the requirements. GO post on those threads Sorry..
Bob **********
Bob **********
Transferring US dollars to a foreign currency account in US dollars gives you the option to change to Baht when you like rate and can also be used as your 65k+ deposits
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
I'm curious about something. If a person is in Thailand legally, not working overseas (illegally), why would Transferwise need to be used? Shouldn't all money be directly deposited into a Thai bank account, and not a foreign bank account?
Kay ********
Kay ********
Maybe I not want more money as necessary in Thailand.
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Ivan ***********
Fair enough...
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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Depending on their specific circumstances perhaps it could. But maybe they don't want to transfer their full pension in, maybe they just want to transfer 65k. Or maybe they have a fixed benefit or state pension that isn't enough and they want to combine it with income from a 401(k). Maybe all their money is in private investments and they handle the transfers themselves. Or maybe they have rental income, or any number of other possibilities. Maybe their pension will do it but will charge them $50 for an international wire.

Bottom line, there is no rule saying you have to move all your assets into Thailand and people are free to do what they like as long as they transfer 65,000 in each and every month. This is just possibly a cheaper option.
Benjamin ******
Benjamin ******
@Ivan ***********
But if a person has retirement or a pension, couldn't that pension be sent directly from the pension company to the Thai bank account?

I have a friend with a CalPERS pension. He submitted a form to CalPERS and the monthly pension is sent directly to his bank account (I think he uses KTB, for what it's worth). There's no need for it go to through his credit union and then transferred here.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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Retired people frequently have investments, pensions and other assets outside Thailand. One of the options to meet the requirements of a retirement extension is to transfer 65,000B/month into Thailand. There is no legal requirement if you are retired here that you have to move all your assets into Thailand or have all your income transferred into Thailand. Just that you need to transfer 65k in from abroad each month.

As US banks typically charge $35-50 for an international wire, this could cost in the region of $400-600 in wire fees per year to do this as a regular wire. TW offers a cheaper way to get your money in.
Marty *********
Marty *********
The notice says they are adding a $3.20 fee so I assume that is on top of whatever Transferwise is already charging.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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I checked, it's $4.33 total. $3.20+ the $1.13 USD to USD transfer fee. There are no exchange or % fees as you are not changing currency, it's a flat $4.33 for any amount.
Ron *****
Ron *****
Question is, any bank in thailand allows you to stay in USD?
Ron *****
Ron *****
@Ivan ***********
Perhaps the banker was talking bs then, will have another inquiry about this.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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There are fixed fees- 200-500B for an incoming transfer (which will be applied in USD equivalent). But that's the same standard fee for an incoming international transfer, it doesn't matter if it is USD or THB account.

There is definitely no converting into THB and back, unless you choose to.

And then if you want to send it back out without converting, Bangkok Bank do charge a 0.25% fee going back out. But I think in this case I'm more thinking of it for people who need to transfer IN their 65,000 monthly.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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@Do***
not if you have a USD account, if you transfer USD to a USD FCD with Bangkok Bank it stays in USD.
Ron *****
Ron *****
@Ivan ***********
last time i checked, those idiots auto convert to thb, then u can buy usd again from their exchange service and deposit to the usd account, then if u want to transfer usd out? Same process...
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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I think all Thai banks offer FCD (Foreign Currency Deposit) accounts.

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Tim ************
Tim ************
And then get ripped of by thai banks , wohooo. You can’t send usd with TW to regular Thb account
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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Have you tried it
@T**
? I haven't tried this new method specifically yet but I have sent USD to a Thai account in the past using TransferWise. You can check the Bangkok Bank TT rates online and compare them with other options, I think you'll find they are quite good.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
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Bangkok Bank at least actually has quite reasonable rates for USD forex. Actually slightly better than TransferWise.

If you need to show monthly 65,000 incoming transfers, I suspect this may in fact be the cheapest way to do it, unless you get totally free international wires (some brokers like Fidelity offer this).

Most US banks charge in the $35-50 range for international wires, so $3.20 is a good deal. You could be looking at a saving of ~$500 in wire fees over 12 months.

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