What are the differences between the Retirement O visa and the Retirement OA visa in Thailand?

November 27, 2021
3 years ago
Per *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi out there. I have a question. What are the different between

Retirement O visa

And

Retirement OA visa?
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The Retirement O visa and Retirement OA visa have key differences; the OA visa requires health insurance and can be applied only from your home country, whereas the O visa can be obtained in more locations and does not necessitate health insurance. The OA visa allows multi-entry with a one-year duration, while the O visa, once initially obtained, can lead to a one-year extension after an initial 90-day period, provided the applicant meets financial requirements, including a Thai bank balance. It is not possible to convert an OA visa to an O visa without leaving the country.
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Eric **********
Then is t the Non-OA the much better option I feel it doesn't require to have money in the bank?

And can the OA be extended after one year?
Brian ***********
I want to convert OA to O can this be done
Anthony *********
@Brian **********
Or marry a Thai lady and get an O Visa based on marriage. You are then able to also get a work permit.
Stephan ***********
@Anthony ********
Also not possible from O/A without leaving the country.
Stephan ***********
@Brian **********
Nope, no chance inside the country. You have to leave first and come back with visa exemption or Tourist Visa; then you can apply for a Non-O here.
Garrett ***********
Non-OA is a 1 year multiple entry visa that requires health insurance and can ONLY be obtained in your home country or country of legal residence.

A Non-O based on retirement is a 90 day single entry visa that can be extended 1 year. It does not require health insurance and can be obtained in most countries and from inside Thailand (transition from a tourist visa or visa exemption). The initial 90 day Non-O requires proof of 800k baht, but the 1 year extension requires 800k baht in a Thai bank account for 60 days before you apply for the extension, and you cannot remove the money for the duration of your stay (you can, but you won't be able to renew the extension).
Bob ********
@Garrett **********
With my Non Imm. 0 Visa I could withdraw the 800,000 (or part thereof) after renewing my visa but had to make sure it was back in the bank again 3 months before renewal was due. However, before getting stuck here in Europe for the past 2 years I seem to remember some changes being made in that area...like having to show all the 800,000 in the bank even when doing the 90 day reporting. .I still have 800,000 in my Thai bank, it would be great if I could renew my Non Imm. O Visa from here in Europe. I made a couple of enquiries about this at this time last year as it, along with my Re-Entry Permit, were coming up for renewal but the option wasn't mentioned to me.
Viem ******
@Garrett **********
Ok I dont know abt it but mine yes! Emb certifies my monthly income...
Garrett ***********
@Vi**
Where are you from? Most western embassies (USA, UK, Canada, Australia) stopped issuing income certs in 2018.
Nick *******
@Garrett **********
So when converting from a TR visa to the initial 90 day Non-O inside Thailand, you have to show 800k baht? If yes, show how?
Garrett ***********
@Ni**
Just take a picture of the cash in your bedroom, or a bank statement.
Nick *******
@Garrett **********
So you’re saying Thai immigration accepts/requests UK bank statement as proof of 800k for Non-O 90 day visa?
Nick ************
The rules are different everywhere. I was told I could not have the 90 day unless
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0 baht was in THAI account for three months previous. Following 12 month extension
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0 baht must remain in the account for 3 months and
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0 baht must remain for the next 6 months and topped back up to
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0 baht for the remaining 3 months to get a 12 month renewal.
Garrett ***********
@Ni**
That's for a 2nd yearly extension...
Nick ************
@Garrett **********
the first sentence of my comment referred to the first application. As my Visa ran out in 2 months I was forced unessesarily to use a different route.
Garrett ***********
@Ni**
The first sentence of your comment, "The rules are different everywhere"
Nick ************
@Garrett **********
my apologies. I meant the second sentence.
Per *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
you only need to show you have income 65 000 bath/ month. i just got one year retirment O but didnt know the difference between them
Viem ******
@Per ********
only certif from Embassy stating you have an monthly pension or retired of
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baht ...or if your income less than
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, you need to have 800k in bank.
Chris **********
@Viem *****
Monthly pension of
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baht. If I have 40.000 baht pension and get 25.000 baht monthly rent of my house in Germany is this ok too?
Viem ******
@Chris *********
you should ask your Embassy to certify that each month adding up you get at least
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...without Embassy' cetification...Immigration would not accept it...
Garrett ***********
@Vi**
Most embassies don't issue income ads.
Carl ***********
@Chris *********
yes as long as it adds upto
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bhat
Chris **********
Carl ***********
@Chris *********
just make sure on your Thai bank in states International; Trans when you exchange the money
Per *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Per *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
I just show my pension income with a stamp from my embassy
Garrett ***********
@P**
Can you either show income or banked money. Most people go the 800k baht in a bank account route.
Claudia **********
And you don’t need the 800tsd THB on a Thai bank account
Robert ********
O-A has slightly different application criteria such as health insurance. But if multi-entry you get a one year stamp each time you visit the kingdom during the length the O-A is valid. This mean you can have two years of stay out of an O-A.
Frédéric ******************
@Robert *******
To get one year stamp at each entry, your insurance should be valid for one year at each entry. Otherwise the immigration will stamp only for the duration of the insurance.
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